Shoutbox

For the "Idle on demand" script: see below....

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Originally posted by absorbation
Shrbr is making something, he found a registry value to change to idle status and is intergrating it into a script.

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The only idle related Messenger registry value there is is the one which indicates with what status you are going to signin. This is shown and used already 2 months ago in my Remember Status script.

But this is of no use whatsoever to the OP.

Even if you can set a registry value to "idle", that wont do anything good since Messenger does not constantly poll the registry to see if it needs to change the status.



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To change the status on demand to 'Idle' you need to manipulate the protocol directly (this is how some addons like Messenger Discovery do it) or find a means to trick messenger into setting it to idle directly.

Also, don't forget that messenger reconizes when the computer goes to idle and out of idle by recieving a Windows message from Windows. It might by possible to manipulate that instead, but it will also have some possible drawbacks if you don't do it right and thus not do what has been requested (which is to set the status Idle on demand but still being able to use the computer; so the status stays on Idle and doesn't switch back to online). It depends on how you do it.



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EDIT:

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Originally posted by shrbr
Make a .reg file

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00



[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MSNMessenger\PerPassportSettings\MSN ID]
"DefaultSignInState"=dword:00000012

Replace MSN ID: http://shoutbox.menthix.net/attachment.php?pid=132217

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I already showed that registry key and the use of it in my Remember Status script. However this is of no use of what has been requested in this thread.



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EDIT (because this post is linked to in several other threads):
you can not set your status to idle using

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Messenger.MyStatus = 6;

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The idle status can be retrieved, but can not be set like this!

The MyStatus property is used to get or set the current status and 6 indicates the idle state.



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EDIT: A known and very old method to set your status to Idle on demand is to patch Messenger. The patch consists of replacing an existing status with the Idle status in the protocol code which handles the setting of statusses.

However, doing this will have major drawbacks: say you change the 'Busy' status with the 'Idle' status, any contact who is busy will be shown as idle. Also, you wont be able to set your status to busy anymore either.

Hence I didn't considered this as a solution. However, since KnRd_WC recently used this method to make a patch, it got me thinking again about these drawbacks and how to eliminate them.

So, to overcome these drawbacks, you can use a dirty but simple hack: patch a messenger status, set your status to that patched one, and change the patched status back to what it was. This is exactly what is done in the attached script "Idle on demand".

But note that such simple patch scripts are version specific. They are designed for a particular build (or builds) and will not work on any other (unless they are made generic, but that requires more code and isn't always that easy/possible). The attached script is only compatible with build 8.0.0812, 8.1.0106, 8.1.0168, 8.1.0178, 8.5.0517, 8.5.0601 and 8.5.1018:

Idle on demand (WLM 8.0.0812, 8.1.0106, 8.1.0168, 8.1.0178, 8.5.0517, 8.5.0816 and 8.5.1018 (and very maybe 9.0)

Usage:
    - Select 'Idle' from the Plus! icon submenu for scripts
    - Use the '/idle' command in a conversation.

It will always be updated shortly after a new (public) Windows Live Messenger version comes out (when I got the time!). Please do not alter the script yourself.



Previous downloads: 788

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
This is exactly what is done in the attached script "Idle on demand".
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Idle on demand (WLM 8.0.0812)

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Thanks a lot! Works fine.. I think this was what I wanted..

works nicely, sweet

Would this script, cause problems... after being Signed In to Messenger Servers for awhile? Yesterday after being on Idle for awhile, Messages I Received started coming in as Offline Messages to me... some Offline, some Regular ... and, some Contacts told me I Appeared Offline to them.

This happend before, and was because of Server Problems but I didn't know if the Idle script / patch... ? Messed with the Server.

Edit: ok thanks for the reply below cookie, I guess it was a Server problem

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Originally posted by artfuldodga
Would this script, cause problems... after being Signed In to Messenger Servers for awhile?

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no... it does absolutly nothing more than what messenger itself does.

This is one fine elite script. Thanks CookieRevised!

for WLM 8.0.0812
var AddressList = [0x493AD4];

for WLM 8.1.0106
If we figure out the AddressList value all will work as before?

Thanks,
McoreD

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Originally posted by ~*McoreD*~
If we figure out the AddressList value all will work as before?

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Yes, the script is made in such a way that all it requires to be compatilble with future version is to add the correct address to that array.

I just updated it (was long overdue)...

Very nice CookieRevised!

Can I ask if this AddressLocation is in msmsgr.exe or someother?
Because in my msmsgr.exe the last addresss was only upto 00562920.

0x493ad4 < 0x562920

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
Idle on demand (WLM 8.0.0812 and 8.1.0106)
Usage:
    - Select 'Idle' from the Plus! icon submenu for scripts
    - Use the '/idle' command in a conversation.

it will be updated if a new windows live messenger version comes out.

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Thanks Cookie!!! Download it and it works!!!


Just an Sugestion:
Is it possible to move the "Idle" from the Plus! menu to the "clickable" status or the Plus! more statuses menu (on contact list)???

See the image from the attach:
Image / Attachment removed by me!!!

Another question: People that don't have anabled the Plus! opition to "Show contacts as Idle instead of Away when appropriate" (on Plus! > Preferences > Customize), will see the "Artificial Idle"???

Edit: I don't know how it works to you, but I've made a test with a buddy that has Plus! Live too. When he turns off the opition, he sees my status as "Away" and when he turns on again, he sees my status as "Idle"

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Originally posted by MicroWay
Another question: People that don't have anabled the Plus! opition to "Show contacts as Idle instead of Away when appropriate" (on Plus! > Preferences > Customize), will see the "Artificial Idle"???

Edit: I don't know how it works to you, but I've made a test with a buddy that has Plus! Live too. When he turns off the opition, he sees my status as "Away" and when he turns on again, he sees my status as "Idle"

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That's exactly what we are after. Without Plus! users wouldn't konw if we are Away/Idle anyways.