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i found that there are some way to check who appear offline but who have login.

when we login to WLM, in our contact list , we can see other people' display picture.  client to ask for the display picture even he/she appear offline. but still do that.. ,so can check who appear offline or not??


thank in advance.

No, its not possible at all, not even with a script.

and besides it's a breach of privacy for scripts like that.

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Originally posted by Jacen
and besides it's a breach of privacy for scripts like that.

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which?

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Originally posted by singying304
which?

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the script you just requested:

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Originally posted by singying304
i found that there are some way to check who appear offline but who have login.

when we login to WLM, in our contact list , we can see other people' display picture.  client to ask for the display picture even he/she appear offline. but still do that.. ,so can check who appear offline or not??


thank in advance.

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People set their status to Appear Offline because they don't want to be disturbed or whatever other reason they have for it. It's their own choice to do that, and therefore stealing that privilege would be considered as a breach of privacy.

Technically, this isn't possible either. There's no way you can distinguish an offline person from someone who is appearing offline, due to the way the protocol and server handles this.

Technically speaking: yes IT IS POSSIBLE.

Direct connections are always being established between you and your contact, when a display picture, for example is updated.

If those packets of data can be traced from source, then yes, its very much possible.

Yes, it is possible, because as some said, Messenger does look for the DPs of people who are appearing offline.
But this method would be inaccurate, because AFAIK WLM does these checks randomly, you can't force WLM to check for people's DPs and it would only work for those who have set one.

As for the 'breach of privacy' argument, this depends on how you look at the issue. The data is sent from your contacts Messenger to your Messenger in any case, it just depends on what you do with this data.
I won't say you're not invading their privacy, because is some way you are, but for me it's rather a question of respect.
If you know this person is appearing offline, that he probably has his reasons for appearing offline, and if you respect him, you won't disturb him.

Same applies to conversation notifiers, you could say you are invading their privacy, but it again depends on how you look at it.
For example when my session notifier pops up (e.g. when WLM checks for a contact's DP (hint)) and I see that this person isn't online, I won't spam him just because I could.


Because this might have become unclear:
There ARE some ways to check if someone is appearing offline, but they are all unreliable / inaccurate.

Technically if you change your DP to a random named image the other client will request it and open a session to transfer the image. You can compare the email of the contacts downloading the image to the status on  your list and bingo.

Technically that will work however I haven't done this yet with packet sniffing to see what happens when you change the DP.

Sorry, but if the person that is offline doesn't change the DP???
Sometimes I don't change it, for example (edit: when I'm offline)...