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Hello,
since a few days my friends annoy me with - for my messenger - unreadable icons. Then I heard about msmsgs PLUS and so found your site.

I am using the pidgin messenger and can't (time problem) and do not want to use the microsoft messenger.

I am using Pidgin (opensource).

Well, pidgin doesn't know anything about msmsgs plus and so tells me ... letters like &##2355 so msmsgs PLUS codes.

As I am programming things, I would build an extension to Pidgin.
Allthough there were some threads about the sourcecode, the sourcecode itself won't be necessary.

As i had seen on my Pidgin, msmsgsPLUS seems to work via the text interface, like HTML, so if a text e.g. shoulg be bold or laughing, etc., there stands sth. like "&#laughing text".

So if you could explain the technic of the code extensions,
I would most probably be able to create a plugin for Pidgin (and perhaps for some other messengers, if their output can be manipulated enough^^)

So you wouldn't need to tell the SourceCode and won't have problems with these msn guys (as i read somewhere) and I (and many others :D) would be happy and msmsgs would become more public (of course I would mention about you, who created the framework and link this page, etc.) as it would be (much) more compatible to the non microsoft (and so non adverted :D) world.

MfG, (yours sincerly)
Michael

btw.: Can you give me a link about the MSN Messenger Server commands & RFC's with some examples?

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MSN Protocol 8:
http://msnpiki.msnfanatic.com/index.php/Main_Page
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Well, pidgin doesn't know anything about msmsgs plus and so tells me ... letters like &##2355 so msmsgs PLUS codes.

I really don't mind of Pidgin as I use the official client...but I'd really like Plus! for the Pocket PC (official) version of MSN :) Do we have any change to see it anytime soon?

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RE: msmsgs PLUS - on other messengers
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Originally posted by MiG-X
I really don't mind of Pidgin as I use the official client...but I'd really like Plus! for the Pocket PC (official) version of MSN :) Do we have any change to see it anytime soon?


I wouldn't think so as there is only 1 developer, Patchou. All development time is devoted to Messenger Plus! as it is with I'm sure it would be well over 250+ lines of code, documentation, etc. already in Plus! I highly doubt that Patchou can devote time to other forms of Messenger.
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O.P. RE: msmsgs PLUS - on other messengers
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Originally posted by MattyRid
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Originally posted by MiG-X
I really don't mind of Pidgin as I use the official client...but I'd really like Plus! for the Pocket PC (official) version of MSN :) Do we have any change to see it anytime soon?


I wouldn't think so as there is only 1 developer, Patchou. All development time is devoted to Messenger Plus! as it is with I'm sure it would be well over 250+ lines of code, documentation, etc. already in Plus! I highly doubt that Patchou can devote time to other forms of Messenger.

Well,
that's exactly what I think too, so I would like to work on compatibility on other Programs, but without the how-it-works definition, I can't do anything-.-

Thanks for the link^^

MfG,
Michael

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I really don't mind of Pidgin as I use the official client...but I'd really like Plus! for the Pocket PC (official) version of MSN :) Do we have any change to see it anytime soon?
Why should anyone care more about the pocketversion than any other messenger? :D

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RE: msmsgs PLUS - on other messengers
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I'm sure it would be well over 250+ lines of code
More like more than 100,000 lines of code.  I remeber Patchou stating that figure a few months ago (and before the skinning engine was started I believe).

I think Patchou would love the idea of someone making the text features compatible with other clients and I think he would help if you wanted to make some of the more complex features (such as linking to the sounds database) into a reality as well.  As long as you have a try there will hopefully, always be someone who will offer to help you on these forums, especially for the purpose of more compatibility with Plus (which currently is used by more than 22 million users I do believe).
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O.P. RE: msmsgs PLUS - on other messengers
100,000 lines of code is much :o

an extra engine is a pretty lot work!^^

Am I right if I say, that any interaction between two plus clients works via the chatbox?

ex.: A says B: "&#sound:hello#&", client B's plus engine sees "&#sound:hello#&" and rewrites it: "A says Sound: Hello" and plays the sound hello.wav

Where are the additional files stored?
If yes, how are these files multiplied?
By using the "Send file" function (which would then work like in the example but with a file)?

btw:
Are you coding in VB/VB.Net?

MfG,
Michael

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RE: msmsgs PLUS - on other messengers
You are right, commands such as sounds are sent through normal messages.  These relate to either a sound stored locally as a default sound or one in the scripts database that matches the id sent.  For the sounds database go to www.msgpluslive.net/sounds/ or mpsounds.net as these are both great for the information.  Any information that is sent between 2 people is done through text in the chats and you should be able to start understanding all the special symbols after you see the same type of message used a few times.  there are the likes of /me as well for actions and /ping to check if someone has plus installed.  Oh and sounds are sent to the database and then to your contact I do believe (I might be wrong on this fact, I personally haven't had much to do with it at all).

As for what Plus! is coded in, it is done in Visual C++ I do believe and the single person who codes it uses the name Patchou.
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O.P. RE: msmsgs PLUS - on other messengers

Thanks for the link^^

Ok, I will read through the page.
Hopefully I can integrate it into Pidgin^^

The msmsgs server (through telnet) is not very "tolerant" to me :D

I still don't really understand the encryption, but I will try myself with modificating pidgin^^

MfG,
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11-28-2007 01:38 PM
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O.P. Schon weiter gekommen :D
So,
ich hab versteh jetzt das Sound-Link-system.
Das Problem:
Wo kann ich im inet auf den Sound z.b. mit der ID:
EA20A5339032
Herunterladen?

Wahrscheinlich geht das net so einfach wie mit nem FTP:
open ftp.de
name
geheim
get EA20A5339032.wav
close
quit
Oder? :D

Wo kann ich diese Soundpacks als diese nicht habender Client herunterladen und . bei mehreren - extracten?

MfG,
Michael

btw: ist mpsounds die einzige downloadadresse? (würde das Ganze einfacher machen^^)

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