Shoutbox

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Originally posted by absorbation
I think Microsoft are just refurbishing old units and releasing them as new again

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Probably not as new, but there's nothing wrong with replacing the broken components and release them as replacements for RMA or sell them under a different status.

I worked for a company where they sell a lot of HP desktops and notebooks. HP has the Renew Program where they sell refurbished machines at a lower price. We would sell machines from the Renew Program at a low price to big national retailers. Those retailers sell the machines in their shops at a regular price without informing the customers it technically isn't a brand new machine. You get full warranty and service on the renew machines, but it's still a bit shady to not inform the buyer. Something like this might happen with other manufacturers like Microsoft too.

I'm all for refurbished products, I just find it unethical selling them as new though, especially when they have known faults.

The ps3 is the better one out of the two of them, Beter graphics and games. Imo. The only bad part of it is you cant play the old ps2 or one games on the ps3 unless you have the expensive one. unlike the Xbox. I have and always will be a Sony fan.

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Originally posted by Sparky04
Beter ... games.

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Yes. All 2. Of them. Are awesome.

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Originally posted by Steven

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Originally posted by Volv

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Originally posted by Volv
[Paying for online] ensures ongoing maintenance and high standards of the service and is hence beneficial to both the user and the company.
The only reason Sony is choosing to lose money on the PSN is because they're fighting a battle which they can't afford to lose, just don't expect your current standards to last.

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I give to you Exhibit A:

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Originally posted by http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23962652-661,00.html
The PS3 update firmware update version 2.4 was recalled just hours after its release, after gamers reported that the installation crashed their consoles.

Users said the problem affected all models of the PS3 and caused glitches ranging from microphones not working to games "freezing" before they loaded.

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Technology website Kotaku said affected PS3 consoles may be fixed by reformatting the hard drive - a move which would erase the owner's data, including saved games and user profiles.

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Good to know it was thoroughly tested before mass distribution. Oh well, I guess you get what you pay for.

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Sony is replacing the ps3's for free, even without warranty. How long did it take for microsoft to awknowledge the problem of the red ring of death? You tell me.

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lol owned

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Originally posted by Volv

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Originally posted by Sparky04
Beter ... games.

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Yes. All 2. Of them. Are awesome.

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lol fanboy.

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Originally posted by Sparky04
The ps3 is the better one out of the two of them, Beter graphics and games. Imo. The only bad part of it is you cant play the old ps2 or one games on the ps3 unless you have the expensive one. unlike the Xbox. I have and always will be a Sony fan.

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The graphics aren't better.
And you can play old games on the xbox.

EDIT: Oh my bad

That's what he's saying vax ...

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Originally posted by vaccination
The only bad part of it is you cant play the old ps2 or one games on the ps3 unless you have the expensive one. unlike the Xbox.

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He's saying that unlike the xbox you can't play the old games on the ps3

This is a poor discussion.

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Originally posted by Nathan
That's what he's saying vax ...

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Originally posted by vaccination
The only bad part of it is you cant play the old ps2 or one games on the ps3 unless you have the expensive one. unlike the Xbox.

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He's saying that unlike the xbox you can't play the old games on the ps3

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It would help if he used proper punctuation.

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Originally posted by vaccination

The graphics aren't better.

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The graphics are better. 360's graphics in most games remind me of PS2 while on the other hand, I am impressed of the realistic graphics PS3 offers. There are games in 360 with good graphics but PS3 certainly gives companies the ability to build better graphics.