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Originally posted by thekid
But, when the patient is still alive and wants to die, that means the patient is depressed. The patient's request is a cry for help.
He actually wants psychological counseling, not death.
Excuse me, but that is rubbish... A patient can be in great stress and pain before he dies. If someone is in hospital having great stress and pain, counting the last days and takes this desicion he doesn't need any psychological help, he wants to rest in peace...
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Originally posted by thekid
You know, when we were still children, and we didn't get what we wanted, we would be angry, said that we didn't want to talk to our parents anymore.
That is a temporal decision. We thought shortly. We didn't know why our parents didn't allow us to have it.
So do the patients. The patients think shortly. They don't think how to "figure" it out (I couldn't find a better word). They want instant.
I can assure you that such a desicion isn't lightly taken, neither by the patient, neither by the doctors...
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Originally posted by thekid
The patient who asks for euthanasia might feel great pain. But, recently, technology has been improving rapidly. With technology in medication, doctors have found many ways to kill the pain.
No they haven't. Painkillers are still the same old medicines...
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Originally posted by thekid
Pretend that I have commited to do something before I die, and I want to do it really bad. Suddenly, I have an accident and I am in coma. Do my family, the doctors, the judge have the right to end my life?
In short: yes, if the right conditions are met.
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Originally posted by thekid
How if I would be conscious after four or five months, but the one-sided decision has been taken?
A desicion can always be broken of course...
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Originally posted by thekid
In my opinion, coma is only a real deep sleep. Unawakened. It is not death.
Of course it isn't dead. Yet, someone can be in coma and yet feel great stress and pain... Also, there are many different kinds of coma.
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Originally posted by thekid
If the patient is untreatable, he should wait until the time comes.
Everybody should wait...
That's the whole point. Should one wait untill the time comes while he is in great pain and stress?
What is more human? Let someone suffer untill the end of his days (no, painkillers don't always work) or should we release him of his pain like he requested and let him sleep painless for ever?
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Originally posted by thekid
The patient might not want to put more burden on his family. So he chooses euthanasia.
That is NOT a good reason to do euthanasia.
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Originally posted by thekid
Back to my first point, he needs help, especially from the family. I don't want to be rude, but, if the family doesn't want or is unable to support him and the patient choose euthanasia approved by himself, his family, the doctors and judge, then the family is the murder.
I don't want to be rude either, but you realy need to look up more info about what euthanasia realy is and about when it is taken...
The desicion of euthansia isn't lightly taken, like I said before. It isn't:
IF (A and B) then "euthanasia". It is a life-desicion.
If all the "paper-work" is done or in process, the desicion can always be retracted for any reason of course. Euthanasia is a good thing and often a human thing todo. If people say "what if he awakens out of a coma", "euthanasia is murder", etc..., they realy need to get more info about what euthanasia realy is.
I'm sorry, but some comments are just rubbish. I hope no-one has to experience the process of all this with a close family or friend or such. Untill you do, do research and stop talking nonsense.
You will know what we're talking about when the time comes when some of your friends are terminal ill and in great pain....
Yes, I have close experience on the matter. I lost already to many friends and familiy. 2 (a friend and my grandfather) wanted euthanasia and I can tell you that such a desicion isn't lightly taken and is always a shock AND a releave to hear. Only for my grandfather the desicion was approved. He died like he wanted, in peace with no pain. My friend died with great pain.
The fraise "unplug the plug" isn't correct by the way. Euthanasia is performed by putting the patient in a deeper sleep then before all the time. In the begin process, the patient sleeps like normal people (8 hours a day) after a while the only thing the patient does in sleeping (and dreaming -> REM sleep) and after a while the patient will die in his sleep... peacefully...
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