{People please read my post :'(}
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Originally posted by sock
I think there are some good reasons to be bashing Microsoft.... Some of their software can get really frustrating. The thing is, they don't fix or improve their software once it is popular: When was Windows XP/Internet Explorer last improved (besides security updates)?
Well, they shouldn't improve Windows Xp --> when you buy it, you buy what's there right now. It's not that we are used to get Windows features in SPs or anything. However, the IE part is different. They SHOULD be competing. They are just resting on the couch while watching the rest of the browsers evolve. I sincerely hope that everybody stops using IE so that Microsoft puts some money back in the project... I don't see that happening, however...
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Why does my entire MSN Messenger 6.1 hang for about 10 seconds whenever someone is added to a multiple-person conversation (or leaves it)? (or could that be Plus?:P)
Doesn't happen to me :-/
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Oh, and I also think that they (and most other software companies) use too many resources, which forces people to buy new computers...
So you are confident that Mr. Bill just says "
Hey! Add some nice loop over here so that the users needs 3871597195mb of ram to run Calc.exe!! Cool, isn't it, Ballmer?" :rolleyes:
Software doesn't need more resources to rearrange the menus to be more understandable (which is one of those "small things"), but those things don't sell. Microsoft has to add skinning into Windows XP to make it attractive for the average user (even for the average designer like me :P). They have to add fading, shadows, alpha blended icons. And you can't do that in a 386. And your beloved Apple understands that :P. You can't run OSX with its fancy (and beautiful) dock animations in the 1984 Macintosh.
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A computer is a tool, not an entertainment center.
Wrong :P A computer is both. They used to be ugly tools, now if they are not entertainment centers they don't succeed.
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And by the way, I doubt many other companies would do much better than Microsoft. When the company gets this big, the small details are forgotten, and it's just the big fancy new features that they focus on, to compete with other companies.
Exactly.
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Adobe Reader 6.0 loads as slow as hell, for example. Very unpleasing.
Not anymore!
Try the first link here
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Originally posted by Patchou
I am not pro-Microsoft, I'm just trying to be more objective. When I start Internet Explorer, it works, within 1 second. When I install Netscape and launch it, it crashes. When it doesn 't crash, it stil ltakes it a while to load so that it can display its ugly interface. My conclusion: Internet Explorer is better than Netscape.
:lol:
I remember when Netscape 6 came out, I downloaded it (on 56kbps - :wall:) and LOVED the new skin. I still like it quite a lot, but it was bashed by the xp look :P
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And why I hate this company so much? simply because they were at the top 10 years ago (I used Netscape Navigator at that time and I was very happy with it), they went down because they never successfully updated their software and tried to find more opportunities to make Netscape more worthwhile than IE, and when they realized they were not capable of doing it, they concentrated their efforts on blaming Microsoft for their failure.
Well, I have to remind you that IE wasn't significantly updated since about 5 years ago. For web developers it's the worst nightmare ever. They don't support standards that have been standards since 1998. At that time, IE was the best. Now, it's good, but simply too inferior to be considered for someone who knows about browsers.
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I too sometimes insult Bill when a MS product is screwing up, but I have to be honest: it doesn't happen very often (and for you neither, else, we would all be using another OS and another word editor). When they screw up, fine, blame them; however, accusing Microsoft for every problem the computer world has to face is not the solution, and I just hate when people accuse someone (or some entity) for no reason except jaleousy.
I completely agree with you on that: Office works great, Windows works great. There are just a few details (not worth the hate). But IE is really a bad bad example :P
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On that subject, I would like to make it official. I have two companies on my die-list: Netscape and Real Network. Why Real? haha, if you ask, that's because you never installed any of their software (or had to use it afterwards). And after years and years of not being able to update their video client, they've now joined the "Let's get some money from Microsoft" club. That's pathetic.
Lol, agreed.
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So, yeah... all I wanted to say is that I'm not pro MS, I'm just don't think that I should force myself to find good things in competitive products just because it's "cool". I don't say that you can't love using Netscape, I just say that I hope you're not using it only because you're "not using a Microsoft-empire-of-evil product".
Indeed.
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Note about Opera: the Opera internet browser is a very good example of how a company can try to inovate instead of complaining like the morons at Netscape did . It just proves my point. (I do not use Opera but I do like it and I recognize that it's a better browser that IE for many reasons).
Yes, it's nice, but
they are on mie die-list as well.
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Originally posted by PlusFan
* PlusFan wonders why Patchou is so pro-MS :-/
Did they pay you? :dodgy:
Being "pro-MS" (not hating MS to death) has been turned into a crime nowadays... It's just so L33T :rolleyes:
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really, maybe netscape sucks, but opera and mozilla (firefox) don't.
*cough* Netscape IS Mozilla with some AOL apps bundled, nothing more.
And anyway, people, don't worry about netscape: it's not like it will last :P
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13393
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