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O.P. RE: Madrid train blasts
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Originally posted by Guido
It's very :dodgy: how the Spanish government *too obviously* says "no no no no no, believe us, it WAS the ETA". They are sinking themselves... Aznar knows that if Al-qaeda was the author, his position in Sunday's election is completely lost.
I'm impressed of how well informed you are! :O:)

The governing, Mr. "Ansar"'s,  party: PP (Popular Party, it's Mr. Aznar, btw) is like Republicans in USA, they assume themselves being center party, but they're a rather right-inclined. Well, they are against nationalism in Catalonia (Barcelona) and the Basque Country (Bilbao) (North-East and North respectively).

ETA is the group behind Basque Country independence. They used to do violent acts to polititians, policemen and sometimes civilians. Their worst act was in 1987 in a Supermaket in Barcelona: 21 civil deaths.

Catalonia government is since October left-inclined and rather nationalist, but against violence, therefore (I'll omit the issue with Carod-Rovira) ETA said they were not going to kill in Catalonia anymore, but in the rest of Spain thaet was mantained.

This arose many Spanish voices accusing this indignant stating of ETA. Among them, the PP kinda blamed the Catalonians for having voted nationalism.

I just told this for you to see that if PP makes Spain believe it was ETA, many Spaniards will go and vote them, because of them being the most important party against nationalism.

Nowadays they have an absolute majority so they are doing what they want, among other things: participating in the war, although 92% of Spaniards were against it.

14th March is general elections for Spanish Government. Isn't it strange they are trying to attract voters who were against war, who possibly critisized the way the government managed the Prestige-wreck at the North-West coast and the proved TV-manipulation?

Sorry, I had to say it. I hope none gets offended, because this is not my intention.

What a pity that I can't vote for exactly three weeks...

Anyway... A lot of argueing aboit politics won't take the victims again to life... so there's no point of going on discussing this.

Edit: afaik, I think ETA helped al-Qaeda in preparing this for two reasosns:

-An ETA van caught some weeks ago with about 100kg dynamite they were taking to Atocha.
-Some pamphlets by Eta were distributed in the Basque Country some days before encouraging Basques to boycott the urban train.

But ETA is very weak now. And they can't handle such a big thing alone, that's for sure...

But again, it goes against their principles.

This post was edited on 03-12-2004 at 11:16 PM by KeyStorm.
03-12-2004 10:52 PM
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Madrid trains blast 11-M [one year ago] - by KeyStorm on 03-11-2004 at 06:10 PM
RE: Madrid train blasts - by Choli on 03-11-2004 at 06:29 PM
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