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Originally posted by Guido
[netscape/mozilla]
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Am I wrong now saying that Avant is an application which makes IE better, but still uses IE?
Yes. Avant is better than IE, but uses IE's rendering engine (mshtml.dll) to render pages.
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I mean that you're always saying "Don't use Opera! Use Avant!
And where exactly did I say that?
All those threads get deleted
There have been a lot of browser-war threads. You're always saying that Avant is better than Opera 'cause it uses the IE engine.
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Opera is a great browser, which has since 7.0 an horrible bug that makes it impossible to run in any computer with many fonts or with Adobe's type manager installed, and therefore I have no chance of using it.
I know about that, as I read the thread in the Opera forums about it.
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Firebox is too simple for me, and Mozilla is too complex.
Very personal. But we were talking about Opera
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Avant has all the features I need, renders most pages correctly (because everyone is forced to make them compatible with IE), never caused me any security problems (even though IE is more targeted with attacks due to its user base, I never had any problem), runs fast, is customisable, etc. etc. etc.
Wait! Wait! Wait! It isn't more targeted because of it's userbase! That's bullshit! You should read this (it isn't about browsers, but more about Linux & Mac OS <-> Windows in general):
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/06/linux_vs_windows_viruses/
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I still hate IE because I'm a web developer and have to go through its bugs in a regular basis. Using another browser won't help with that, so I just use what I'm more comfortable with.
It will help! If everyone (>95%) of people surfing the web will use standards-compliant browsers, it will be the same as now, with ppl not making standards-compliant pages. Then everyone will make standards-compliant pages. But if you're like "nah.. it won't matter anyway.. let me use this sucky IE", that won't happen! Promote standards-compliant browser to family, friends, everyone!
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No, I'm not lazy to switch, I tested and have installed in the same machine, and use regularly for testing pages:
-IE 6.0
-IE 5.0 SP2
-IE 4.0
-IE 3.0
-Firefox 0.8
-Mozilla 1.6+
-Opera 7.5
And I still prefer Avant. I also tried MyIE, and I prefer Avant.
You prefer Avant because Opera has this horrible bug for you. But then you can still tell people "opera is great, but it doesn't work for me. Try if it does work for you". Opera 7.5 is really great!
maybe something more interesting would be "reasons to keep using IE"
I can tell you, there aren't much