, okay, this
may be a big post, so much to respond to!
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Originally posted by Chris Boulton
The events of 9/11 shattered and destroyed the lives of many Americans, as well as other people throughout the world - whether it was through the loss of a loved one, or just seeing something so horid happen. Do you really think any person would (apparent from terrorists here) want or intend to hurt these thousands of people in such a way, especially someone in a presidential position.
Yes, because as you can see, No one discovered the links until now. His tracks were covered up WAY to much. Add in the fact that he STRONGLY OPPOSED a 9/11 Commission
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Originally posted by Chris Boulton
Yes, the Bin Laden family did run out of the United States, but if you knew someone that was involved in such an act and knew that the people wouldn't give you a chance, would you do the same? Think about it - I'm sure you would run if millions of people knew who you were and would place the blame and responsibility directly on you.
This is the reason they were allowed to leave the country, but they SHOULD NOT have been allowed during "Down Flights".
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Originally posted by Garndell
US forces use Cluster Bombs in CITIES, TOWNS & VILLAGES why? Are they determined to kill as many people as possible innocent or not? The US shoots at British Aircraft when AMERICAN KIT screws up.
Bush uses 9/11 Images in his Election Broadcasts which to me is an afront to all that is holy. He is trying to use 9/11 as an Election Issue, does he not have a brain or something? When more people realise what a con the Broadcasts are there will be huge outcries.
Michael Moore has the guts to go against the Political line to read between the lines. Disney refused to release it (too many links with Bush there) so he had to go elsewhere. I am not Anti American, but most Americans see a little Tax Cut that is only temporary & say "oh, lets vote for him" which is stupid, ignorant & so American.
All Agreed. These "Targeted Attacks on Terrorists" have yet to be done without killing some Iraqi Citizen. They are not using the right force...They should use Ground Troops and THEN think about bombs if the ground troops dont work out, bombing is just going to kill bystanders.
And bush IS using 9/11 as an "Election Issue", which again, he is profiting from 9/11.
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Originally posted by fluffy_lobster
Firstly, 9/11. Neither Bush, nor the government organised 9/11. Why would they? It hasn't earned them votes, but broken public trust because they didn't respond to a threat they were well aware of. Generating revenue for the emergency services? The emergency services don't generate money, they cost money 
government money that would otherwise be spent on things that would win votes.
May I remind you that BILLIONS of dollars were raised after 9/11 to pay for the services and to pay the families?
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Originally posted by fluffy_lobster
Next, the theory Bin Ladens own 7% of the economy. Firstly, we're not talking about Osama. Many of his family have very openly disowned what he does, so I see no reason why they shouldn't be big investors. Secondly, being a major investor does not mean they own 7% of the economy. Not only do they not own AOL Time Warner or the Carlyle Group, but their investments cannot just be removed... it is nobody's responsibility to "keep them happy". Once money goes into the company, it's theirs. If anything, if it's even true, the Bin Ladens are helping keep the economy going. However, you can't connect 9/11 to the prosperity of big companies, or of the bin ladens. The event destroyed the offices of many companies that will have been part of the Carlyle Group and AOL Time Warner. Those who weren't still suffered economic regression, as people became unwilling to invest in an economy that may be hit by another attack, and people became unwilling to personally use services that were under threat like the airlines industry.
There is factual evidence showing that the Bin Laden family owns a large portion of AOL Time Warner and The Carlyle Group. They invested in so much (theres more than those 2 companies, I just cant remember them, whoever watches the movie can post if they remember
) that they DO own aprox. 7% of the economy.
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Originally posted by fluffy_lobster
Oh, and what's wrong with none of the congressmen reading the acts that they pass? This is a grossly misleading use of the fact. It is not congressmens' jobs to read long and complex acts. They will have advisors and legal experts who read it and explain the effects it will have. It is up to the congressmen to decide its resulting implications and make a decision based on that. Get it right.
Uhh...Its the JOB of the congressman to read the bills, it is NOT the job of them to delegate others to read there bills. Its what you call making an "informed decision".
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