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Originally posted by Pr0xY
I only had to read the first 7 posts before I was thinking "is this kid for real?"
First off, that site looks like it was made by some high school kid that just started learning HTML.
Second, if your saying all you believe in is whats real, then what did you mean by this?quote:
Originally posted by PlusFan
Prove to me that aliens didnt exist?see you can't..some things are just too big for us humans...
Prove to me that trees cant talk?see you can't..some things are just too big for us humans...
With that I meant that johny's argument
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Prove to me that jesus didnt exist?see you can't...some things are just too big for us humans...
Was crap, because the same goes for aliens and talking trees
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I like the part "...some things are just too big for us humans..."
See, if you believe that, and its a part of this religion (cult), it totally contridicts itself. This religion "The Church Of Reality" is saying, if its not real, you dont beleive in it. So if you cant see it, smell it, or taste it, its not real. This religion "believing what is real", means only believing in what you see, that we as humans should 100% understand what we see and know its true. That is the total Oppisate of having things in this world that are too big for us as humans. Now either YOU dont know what your talkign about(maybe cause your 13 and I highly doubt you even have rational and logical thinking skills), or this religion is made up (prob by some LSD user(just like the guy who started the Jahova Witnesses))
Before I go on, I want to read what you have to say about that.
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Originally posted by NoName
So they don't actually beleive in anything? If they beleive in reality, they just beleive in what can be proven. Its basically the same as choosing not to beleive in religion. 
No, it's not. If you don't believe in religion, that doesn't mean you believe in reality
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Originally posted by thekid
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Originally posted by PlusFan
I meant that the book was written in ~110 AD
It was written in 80-95 AD. So the write, John, who was Jesus' disciple, was still alive. And the last book in Bible written in 96.
Even if it was written in 80-95AD, then John would be 70-115 assuming John was 20-30 in 30AD (I don't think Jesus was walking around with some 5-year old kids). The memory of a 70-115-year-old is very bad. How can you trust that he didn't "forget" something or that he added something which is wrong?
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Originally posted by PlusFan
Well, they can't get to that conclusion, because it contradicts with John 20:17. Jezus says he's going back to his father, who is God. So Jezus can't be God.. It's all weird with Christianity being monotheistic (the angels are sort of like super-natural to, just like Satan)
Mind if I add the same "fact" like the passage you gave and even it is more "powerful" to show that Jesus is not God?
Take a look at John 14:28.
Whoa, Jesus even said, "the Father is greater than I."
In His humanity, Jesus had made Himself temporarily "lower than the angels" (Hebrew 2:9). In the state of humiliation, He could speak of the Father being greater than He. He said that when He was in human form.
Satan was an angel, a fallen angel to be exact, named Lucifer. Actually, he was also an archangel, the highest order among all angels, along with Michael and Gabriel.
So you're saying that Jesus
was God, but he somehow took away his power so that he was lower than an angel? O_o Then he wouldn't be going back to the father, but then he would become the father again. To me it sounds llike Jesus wasn't the "son of God", or he denied he was on purpose.. but why would he do that?
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If a serial murder saved you from bullets, were you gonna worship him?
No, but I was talking about Jesus. Jesus was on Earth. But everyone knows that heaven is nicer than earth. Right? So if you were on earth, you'd prefer to be in heaven.. right? So when Jesus went to heaven, that was a good thing for him, because heaven is nice. Jesus knew he was going to heaven. So dying wasn't such a bad thing for him. Do you agree?
Therefore, I don't see why it's so heroic of him to die "for our sins". Someone who would go to hell, and knew it, would prefer to stay on earth.
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All of us are sinners.
Then what's the purpose? We are going to burn in hell anyway
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Wow, you did your homework, didn't you?
You don't need to give a certain verse, because almost all words are different depending on the versions.
So how do you know which one is "correct" and "the word of god"?
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Btw, it's "Jesus," not "Jezus."
You should value other's name by writing it correctly because you have known which one is the right one.
Sorry, in Dutch it's with a "z"
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He did it once (destroying all things), but He promised He would never do that again.
And why would he keep his promise? Noone is regulating him
