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Originally posted by PlusFan
Even if it was written in 80-95AD, then John would be 70-115 assuming John was 20-30 in 30AD (I don't think Jesus was walking around with some 5-year old kids). The memory of a 70-115-year-old is very bad. How can you trust that he didn't "forget" something or that he added something which is wrong?
I can fully trust it, because it is God's work.
See, you think with your earthly perspective. Earthly logic.
God is all powerful. He can do everything He want to do.
Don't you think that it is easy for God if He wanted to forgive everything we've done by just saying some words?
He only wants people who believe in Him to join with Him in Heaven.
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Originally posted by PlusFan
So you're saying that Jesus was God, but he somehow took away his power so that he was lower than an angel? O_o Then he wouldn't be going back to the father, but then he would become the father again. To me it sounds llike Jesus wasn't the "son of God", or he denied he was on purpose.. but why would he do that?
Because God is love.
He incarnated and gave an example for people too.
He knows what it feels to be a human (
Hebrew 4:15).
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Originally posted by PlusFan
No, but I was talking about Jesus. Jesus was on Earth. But everyone knows that heaven is nicer than earth. Right? So if you were on earth, you'd prefer to be in heaven.. right? So when Jesus went to heaven, that was a good thing for him, because heaven is nice. Jesus knew he was going to heaven. So dying wasn't such a bad thing for him. Do you agree?
I agree dying wasn't such a bad thing for Him, but the process was. Literally.
Just watch
The Passion of Christ.
Jesus' burden was to take all sin people do.
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Originally posted by PlusFan
Therefore, I don't see why it's so heroic of him to die "for our sins". Someone who would go to hell, and knew it, would prefer to stay on earth.
But how long would someone live on earth?
One is either going to heaven or hell for eternity.
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Originally posted by PlusFan
Then what's the purpose? We are going to burn in hell anyway 
No, if you believe in Him.
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Originally posted by PlusFan
So how do you know which one is "correct" and "the word of god"?
All of them are correct, unless ones that have been changed for the purpose of a group.
What makes them different?
The translations can be separated into 2 groups, the formal equivalence ones (word-by-word translation) and the dynamic equivalence ones (phrase-by-phrase translation).
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Originally posted by PlusFan
Sorry, in Dutch it's with a "z"
Sorry, I didn't know that
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Originally posted by PlusFan
And why would he keep his promise? Noone is regulating him
Because He wanted to.
PlusFan, I think you just choose not to believe everything with Christianity. But, I'm happy because I think we are moving on from one topic to another, that means you accept it.
If you choose to go to hell, it's your choice.
I hope we can meet in heaven though.
lol
This thread is way out-of-topic now.
The title should be Q&A about Christianity by now.
PlusFan, do you want a more effective way of learning Christianity? Just ask someone who can communicate face-to-face with you. I just think that asking and getting the answer from posts are not effective enough.
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