Shoutbox

Ok I am sick and tired of threads like this being created everytime their is a new release of Messenger Plus!. Since Patchou has incorporated the Optional Sponsor program he has had nothing but bad reviews from people who do not read and blame all their problems on Plus!. Which back when it was added it caused alot of problems. But since then has been rectified. Patchou has asked the creator of the sponsor to remove all adult oriented material, stop from changing PC Name on a network etc. The sponsor application now creates desktop icons, a search bar, adds favourites and changes the home page which compared the the first version is quite different.

c00ly: If Patchou could remove the sponsor and still make a living don't you think he would have done so already? Seriously Google ads don't payout a lot compared to the Sponsor program (which only pays for use of the search bar from what I understand). The Sponsor has paid for the servers that these forums are hosted on. You seem to think that an application that makes little changes to your system is harmful. What about all the applications that contain multiple system altering applications like Bargains, New Dot Net, Internet Optimizer and so forth. Don't you feel that those companies should remove theirs as well? If not then why do you have such a biased opinion about the Plus! Sponsor? The program isn't going to fuck up your computer as people claim it does. People who do Computer Programming for a living have a hard life. Programming is a job and takes hours on end but it is not a forever job. You are approached when a project is needed, once its complete your get your money and wait for another project which could be months or years then what are you going to do? You have a house, car, bills, and most of all you need to eat. If you don't have an income for a bit you may be forced to eat Kraft Dinner or nothing at all. I am sick and tired of the past people who have bitched about the Plus! Sponsor, the people in the future who will, and you for having such a narrow minded view on the situation. Patchou needs to eat and pay bills. Are you going to pay him for his work? Trust me, you couldn't afford him. So with all that said lets stop the talk about "Patchou should remove the sponsor" because the guy has to eat period!

TaKYoN: How can you sit there and suggest to have a pop box to tell people that the following license agreement is for the Plus! Sponsor? If Patchou were to do that then no one would install the Plus! Sponsor (which is harmless) and Patchou would go hungry because he wouldn't be making any money from it. And he would be forced to do one of two things.

1) Completly stop the development of Messenger Plus!
2) Make Messenger Plus! payable (meaning you have to pay for it to use it.)

I don't think anyone wants that to happen to such a great program. Messenger Plus! is not like the episode from the Simpsons where Homer becomes someone who wants to protect others through signs so he puts up signs for the slightest thing like Sign Up Ahead > Crack Sidewalk Up Ahead > 10ft till cracked Sidewalk > 5ft till cracked Sidewalk > 4ft till cracked Sidewalk > 3ft till cracked Sidewalk > 2ft till cracked Sidewalk > 1ft till cracked Sidewalk > Cracked Side Walk here. Patchou already gives users multiple screens talking about the Plus! Sponsor so what more do you want? While people will actually read the alert box the images and extra screens should be enough, if they don't pay any attention then they deserve what they get. I can only see someone agreeing to a license that said "by installing our application you will pay us $10 each month for the use and $100 a month after uninstallation" and bitching because they didn't read. I have personally talked to Patchou about having a pop box previously to any thread posted on the forum and his answer will stay the same as it was back then. No. Symantec may classify adware as a virus but the actual definition of adware isn't the same as a virus. The main objective of a virus is to "replicate itself" adware just provides ads. Big difference.

The donation link was on Patchou's original page when Messenger Plus! was version 1.42.

In conclusion: Programmers need an income to support their life. Ads just don't cut it. And programmers don't get enough projects a year to be able to support themselves. The Plus! Sponsor is harmless so let it be. Go do something usless and bitch about programs that actually harms your computer because we are all sick and tired of your type bitching about the Sponsor. No one has succeeded with their attempts to have Patchou change the installer to fit their needs so please stop trying.