If Poom had not gone into asumptions this convo would have been done with already. Seriously what does our age have to do with it, or how much we chat? To me this felt like he was telling us we aren't doing our jobs properly (lack of respect). Keystorm explained everything, yet Poom wasn't reading and kept holding on how "good" his idea is. I explained the whole thing in a different way, same result.
Dragging TB into the whole conversation was wrong aswell and totally not to the point (this was again an assumption that we don't listen).
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Poom, take a look at my Bio (in profile)..you can see i also betatest stuffplug and therefor work closely with TB aswell (yup, we met even..search forums for Paris and/or London).
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Originally posted by viper2681
Granted the average user should be smart enough to know the basics, but face the facts; the average user is shifting from teenagers to first time users. They won't know how to use shortcuts, and they don't know what the F1 button does. There are probably 25 to 30 percent of users that know the basics, and then there's the other 70 to 75 percent that make companies like Geek Squad rich over 404 Errors (yes, I've seen this happen).
Even so, that is not a reason to bloat Plus! with buttons..wich imo makes everything more confusing even (and ugly to look at). If they don't know, they can learn right? It will benefit them in the long run. And there's always the rightclick menu, what is so hard about that (that's another thing that is basic in every single program)?
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Only a small fraction of computer users actually know what keyboard shortcuts are. Unfortunately, the only people that beta test are people that know what they're doing.
You can rest assured that the tabbed convo feature is tested properly and that we are and will make suggestions in how to make it better before it is released to the public to make sure everybody will be pleased with it (experienced and inexperienced users). Patchou and betatesters work closely together to make all this possible. We do listen to suggestions, but also comment on it (because we know what we are talking about)..if this is taken the wrong way then sorry (don't expect us to cheer for every single suggestion made).
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