Okay.. First off... I'd like to make a small apology to you TB...
But not fully...
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Originally posted by TheBlasphemer
Ah yes, Me having spent hours on getting this to work really doesn't mean a lot to you, doesn't it?
I didn't say anything like that.. I appricate your Plugin Reloader... I use it frequently when I experiment, and build plugins... But to be honest, I didn't think it had taken you so much time to get this working.. Therefor I didn't see this as a big deal... Sorry for that one...
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Originally posted by TheBlasphemer
If you're going to use my work, then why don't you pay for it?
I decided to distribute this for free, but this doesn't mean I give permission to every half-arsed developer to rip out the main code and use it in his plugin.
That is exactly why I joined this community, and why I myself is doing this shit, it's because we give it for free to the people... I don't want to pay for a bloddy plugin, and neither do I want to take for money for a plugin...
No it doesn't mean you give permission to everyone to steal your code... But see, my general problem with this thread all started with your "No" answer... This gave me the feeling that you were not at all interested in TazDevil making this improved Plugin Reloader... Rather it seemed you were somehow mad about it... And that ticked me off... I got the feeling that you were scared someone would use his version more than yours... Or something similar.. I don't say that was what you were thinking, but that was the feeling I got from your answer... Then afterwards you write "If you want to do it that way, go along, just don't expect me to do anything for you ever again in the future. "... This just sounded so stupid.. Sounded like something taking from a kids-series or something.. It was like saying, this means war... Yes, he did reverse engineere your stuff, and that's bad.. But hell with it.. Relax, it's a god danm plugin reloader..
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Originally posted by TheBlasphemer
I'm not stopping taz from making his own reloader plugin, I don't care about that. My reloader isn't making me any money at all, and to be honest I'd already forgotten about it.
See.. Relax.. You had even forgot about it.. Then why make such an outcry out of it?... You plugin reloader is probably one of the earliest plugins for Messenger Plus!... Does it date 2 years back?...
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Originally posted by TheBlasphemer
But if he wants to do his own, he should do his own research, just like I did. I am in no way obligated to share my knowledge with anyone, and if I ever do share information like this, I will do so out of my free damn will.
That is true... No you are not obligated to share information.. But I kinda think this lies in the "To be part of the community"... As I said you wouldn't need to share source.. Just a litle hint.. Anything but a simle "No"..
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Originally posted by TheBlasphemer
The main problem with your 25-lines of bullshit is that you've forgotten one major thing: It's freeware, I decided to share it with the world myself, and this does not in any way force me to make it just the way you'd want it. It was provided as-is, and if you're not satisfied make your own. And by "Your own" I mean by doing your own testing, investigating, retrying, and so on.
Also true.. But see, this is what I don't get.. Why hadn't you made a new advanced version of it, sometime ago?... I just think it would be plain and simple "Developer Strategy" to make something that "small" would make things so much simpler for a lot of people.. Yes, your own testing, investigating, retrying... But see, my thought was that in general this was something easy to do, it was just to get it right, just that tiny litle bit... But why spend valuable programming time on people doing the same research over and over again when 1 man could help them all in 1 single line of text(without even giving source code, and maybe a litle more than 1 sentence..)... When we instead could concentrate about throwing out some good and useable plugins... I'm sorry if I have misunderstood something in the terms of community, but I was just thinking that our objective was to create and give out some nice plugins and help eachother and be together as a team/community and not like competitors competing each other..
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Originally posted by TheBlasphemer
Ah yes, as soon as I don't just plainly accept anything thrown at me, or decide to not help out like I usually do, people always bring that up... but tell me, what's your fucking point there? It makes no bloody sense!
Well, I haven't been much active on these boards the past 3 months.. So I don't know how much you have been around here during that period.. But before that, yes you were a great person.. you were on the board, but I don't think you were much on the Plugins part of the board, giving much help.. I don't say you should, nor do I say that you had time for it, you have and had a lot of other things to look after, and you have also seemed to help people... But I know for a fact that you being a (sorry to say it) dickhead, and you were... You can't deny that.. You have changed to a much better person on this area, but this kinda looked like a step back for you..
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The plugin was provided as is, I couldn't care less what you want, I was merely sharing something I created for myself. And the reason I said just "No" was that at the time I was really hung-over, couldn't be bothered to type more. And thinking back, I don't think I had to type more, I am still the developer of the plugin, and I am not obliged in any way to explain why I refuse to cooperate with something.
No, you couldn't care less what we want.. See that's a problem.. We are a community!..
Ok, see you did have a hung-over.. Then that gives a reason for why you didn't want to post something "big"... But you could at least have written something like "No, not really, spent much time on getting it working, there are much research behind it, but go take a look at XXXXXXX" or something similar... Just a tiny litle bit hint.. A answer for why you didn't want to give it away.. Anything!!!!!... Just not a simple "No".. Okay, you had a hang-over, fair enough, but a few more letters could have made a big difference...
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You really don't get it, do you? Normally I help out, a lot more than I should be at times, and this time when I refuse, I get crap like this thrown at me? would you call that community behaviour?!
Sorry about that one.. I don't know if i've been the wrong places, and I don't know if you help out alot other places(Which you probably do), and yes you have been to more help than you needed... But still, the short "No" was just not a answer someone could relate to..
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I'd expect people to just accept my answer. is that too much to ask?
You ask me something, I refuse, and you keep on whining? that's five-year-old behaviour...
Yes, people should accept your answer.. But then give a answer we can use for something.. Like "No, I've spent much time on it, do your own research." if that is what you wanted to say...
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I own the code I write. And if you disagree, then don't touch it.
Yes you own the code you write... But I was talking about the general part of having a pause between the unloading/loading of the plugins.. You made it sound like you had copyright on that part or something...
Sorry for this discussion/conversation... Hope this finds it ways out peacefully...
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