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Originally posted by saralk
i'm not saying that, but being an Op puts you in a position of responsibility, and for someone who doesn't know much about IRC, an Op would seem like a member of staff.
And if you went into a restaurant and the waiter started swearing at you, laughing at you and then kicked you out of the restaurant because you complained, what impression would that give of the resaurant?
Messenger Plus! gives the impression of a proffessional company (which it is), and the Ops should try and uphold that.
This harks back to what I said earlier - you will never be happy unless Patchou is there policing the channel 24/7. saralk: there's a HUGE difference between a restaurant and an IRC channel and I think you know that. I agree that in the help channel, #msgplus, decorum should exist. But that's a help channel and if you have experienced half the help channels on the internet you will know that #msgplus is one of the few decent ones, the rest are full of people who tell you to RTFM and then ignore you. The channel in question is #banana, which isn't about decorum and helping people so that need for politeness and representing Plus isn't necessary. No one in there ever wanted the channel listed on the java applet, because we knew the influx of random people wanting to ask "n e hot grls here??" would just be annoying. If you saw the amount of people who seem incapable of telling the difference between "Click here for Help and Support" and "Click here just to chat" you would be miffed, to say the least. People joining the chat channel and asking "can ne1 help??" in a dozen languages, is not how regulars want the channel to be. By saying becoming an op is about responsibility you are enforcing them with this burden of having to be a role model, ops are still just lusers like anyone else in the channel, they shouldn't have to become a father figure to the channel all of a sudden.
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Originally posted by RebelSean
It's these people that make the time people spend in the channel, not good at all. I'm not saying "OMG I WANT TO MAKE AN OFFICIAL CHAT CHANNEL", but I'm proposing one be made by someone who knows how to run a channel, one who knows how to use an IRCD and commands.
Chirs, I made that #chat channel a few months back. Because one day, I knew something like this would happen, and a channel named #chat would be a good official chat channel. I wanted to hold it and give it to someone who would suffice at running it. No, I'm not saying #chat should be made the official channel either. Simply stating that it would be a good idea, it just needs someone who is responsible and can get good ops to run it in there.
The people who op #banana are the ones who know how to run a channel, how to use an ircd and commands.
"Can get good ops to run it..." The ops in #banana are the best on the server; they're also the most active, the most competent people to op a channel in this community.
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Originally posted by beamy-kitty
But if you go to 95% of “chats” that actually work and have people stay and enjoy you need “rules”You cannot survive in any sort of community without them..Tis why chatrooms have rules..because things can get out of hand.sure not everyone can get along but there are ways of debating isuues without being personal..
IRC works. Fact. Read: www.netsplit.de to get an idea of how many people use IRC everyday.
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Originally posted by beamy-kitty
You don’t abuse or disrespect people in “life” without repercussions..its plain and simple..tis why IRC needs to be “policed” so everyone can have fun..Not just the alpha’s.
IRC is policed. Packetteers get banned. Flooders get banned. Drone runners get banned. You're trying to police things so strictly that you leech the fun right out of them.
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Originally posted by beamy-kitty
On the internet rules also stand forth, many legal ramifications of ones actions have co-ersed many into seeking legal actions against ones who are deframing peoples characters.Whats illegal or unacceptable in society are also unacceptable online..
Warez is against the law. The majority of internet denizens condone it and enjoy it. Etc. Insulting someone on IRC is never going to result in a lawsuit, that's beyond ridiculous. Spend ten minutes in some channels and I think you would be crying, literally. You can get insulted just for the ISP you use in some places. Wow, you people are sensitive.
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Originally posted by beamy-kitty
Most “chatting medians”online have a simple set of rules..and My personal opinion..that IRC would work if it followed a simple set of guidelines
· NO Excessive arguing..
· Spamming IRC with nonsense posts
· . Posting RT information about other people besides yourself IRC
· Racism, bigotry (stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief,sexism or opinion that differs from one's own), posts referring to sexual acts with children or animals. Harassing other IRC members whether in PM or in public or by using an 'anonymous' type name. Harass: 1. to disturb persistently; torment, as with troubles or cares; bother continually; pester; persecute. 2. to trouble by repeated attacks, incursions, etc.,
· Blatantly ignoring posted room rules
· Anonymous posts- use your name.
· Excessive use of profanity-
Harrasing posts, posts that reveal RT information about people other than yourself.
.Continued removal from the #Banana. In other words, if you continue to break the rules posted above, there will be consequences.
· Hacking or posting codes to interfere with the chat programming of IRC
· threats to other Irc members on IRC will be reported to authorities and may result in banning from the IRC as a whole.
anyways jus a idea..to make IRC enjoyable for everyone..thinks ill hush now and hide
IRC is enjoyable, without all those rules. I pasted a link to a set of guidelines previously. Basically "don't be lame" is what they said. You could learn from that. These rules above are nonsense, go and read bash.org and you will realise that IRC is about free speech and the frontier of the internet, as well as the underground. Some of the rules you have listed show that you have a lot to learn about IRC - regarding anonymity and profanity and "nonsense posts". www.irchelp.org - read it three times.
