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Originally posted by TheBlasphemer
I like the language. It's simple and fun. But that still does not mean it's reliable and useful.
It's as much reliable as any other language (including C++), even for big programs or whatever.
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Originally posted by TheBlasphemer
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Originally posted by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BASIC_programming_language
BASIC (an acronym for Beginner's All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code[1])
That's exactly what I said: "It's not because the "b" stands for "beginners" that the language is ... yadda yadda..."
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Originally posted by TheBlasphemer
You've got loads of scriptkiddies like that in C++ that can write a simple MessageBox and think they're a C++ master. Hell, every language has those. But I don't see anyone calling C++ names ?
And I know why, because it's a respected programming language that has proven to be very very useful, in contrast to VB.
It's because VB programmers respect C++, yes, UNLIKE C++ programmers respecting VB (and that is what I mean with people like you are "pinned" to C++ or the likes. They don't respect it based upon wrong stuff and their OWN personal likings as they think C++ is holy and uberleet and the rest is minor (simply because it is a different syntax or because they actually do not know it as good as they know c++). In fact, this is just the same as someone not respecting another culture because he/she thinks its "minor"...
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Originally posted by TheBlasphemer
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Originally posted by CookieRevised
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Originally posted by TheBlasphemer
They might indeed just be pieces of memory, as with any program, yet they're not pointers. Each and every variable in VB is a VARIANT type. No more, no less.
erm, that's absolutely not true.
In WScript (which is VBScript and JScript together), everything is the VARIANT type... honestly 
obviously I'm talking about VB...
And why would you say an argument like "vbscript doesn't even know true types, except variants" when this is just the same in jscript??? In other words, don't try to talk you out of this
You even stated "VB" yourself, not "vbscript".
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Originally posted by TheGeek
Well, in my opinion (which doesn't really matter) the vb keywords are too long for writing code. That might be because i'm used to typing with brackets and semicolons, but for me, "if(true){return;}else{return;}" is more useful than "If True Then ...".
Some people might say it's more readable, but imo, the syntax of the other programming languages are more readable than vb once you get used to it.
That's very true (wow, and this comming from a VB programmer
).... the thing is Basic was developed with exactly that in mind, to create a syntax which is 'readable' and close resembles english sentences/words to untrained people so it is more open to start programming in it than another language.
The thing with this is; some people think that basic is minor, unreliable and what not because of this. It's simply the syntax, even if it was in Chinese the language would still work the same. a logic and comparisson will still be a logic and comparisson, just as in C++, Cobol, Fortran, Pascal, Delphi, whatever.
And because it is more 'readable' to an untrained and first beginning programmer, it is much more easy to actualy learn to program in VB for example than it is in C++; the learning curve is less steep.
99,9999999% of all arguments comming from people who mainly program in C++ have to do with exactly that; Because basic was first meant for 'beginners' they think it's shit, unreliable and whatever. They almost never base their findings on facts but on things they believe or hear from others. Look at the vbscript vs. jscript arguments, nice example. Even the fact that vbscript is actually more powerfull and can do more things than jscript doesn't matter for them; they don't like the syntax or it has the word "basic" in it so it is a 'worse' language. And that has been so pinned in to them "basic is evil" that they even don't see what it is actually capable of; it is automatically judged as "bad'.
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