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Originally posted by RaceProUK
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Originally posted by Puniksem
this would save alot of accidentalinstallations
Remembering that Patchou has re-worked the Plus!installer so many times to make it even easier to not install thesponsor. In fact, now you have to choose whether to install itor not in orderto install Plus! itself!And before you say 'Well, people will just tick 'Yes' without reading',yes they will. And they'll do exactly the same on a webpage (that's whyphishing is so lucrative).
It seems you don't gauge how "automatic" it really is in the same way I do. For instance I have accidentally installed the sponsor program - oh say 3 or 4 times now. Although on every occasion of promptly removed it - it makes my skin crawl to think that this is how Patchou makes money.
One time I mistyped the switch /SilentInstalNoSonsor - and it proceeded to install the Plus!
with the sponsor (try it yourself on Plus!3)! Even if there is a "choice" it's still a bad choice when clearly most of us would never recommend to our friends and family to install the sponsor - who is Patchou to recommend they do?
If Patchou is serious about making money from Plus! he could make it a commercial product. I would prefer this then for it to be bundled with this stuff. And there are still many other options available. Besides I didn't stat this thread to discuss whether or not the choice is sufficient - I started it to discuss if there is anyone who recommends to friends and family to install the Plus! Sponsor.
"Remembering that Patchou has re-worked the Plus!installer so many times to make it even easier to not install thesponsor."
Here is the Sponsor agreement Window:
![[Image: msgplusliveagreecl2.png]](http://img424.imageshack.us/img424/7269/msgplusliveagreecl2.png)
It reveals that it is AdWare. AdWare is like
Windows Live Messenger - ads are displayed in program. But it doesn't fully disclose what is going to happen.
I once made the very basics of MSN Messenger in VB, and believe me I could complete the program if I so desired.
Here - see for yourself
http://plamdi.com/files/msnmsgr.zip
It's only a proof of concept really, it was at a time when you couldn't select your status when signing in. You can't start conversations in it. An interesting thing is that if you click "Remove Allow" on a contact you'll appear offline only to that contact, regardless of your status - but the contact is not blocked. This still works. You may wonder why there are "encoding options" for the nickname - again proof that you could write longer nicknames if you used minimal encoding when sending to the server. It was also possible to have &# nicknames when sent in specific ways (I still have &# on one account - although I don't think it's possible anymore to change back to it). The method I used was to use an "invalid" character request between & and # - such as %09 (Tab) ... the server would accept the nickname, and then remove %09 from it, so your resulting nickname was &#... or %26%23... or however you'd encoded it. Before that it was possible to send requests to the server like &%23 or %26# and it would be accepted.
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