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RE: who's apeering offline?
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Originally posted by Aardvark
@DejaVoo
As Cookie has kinda said, you're releasing this information (anything in your name, personal message, display picture) into the public domain - theoretically once it's out there anyone can do any thing with it - by making these things public that's the choice you have made.
Well, that isn't entirly true though...
There is still a big difference.

You're absolutely right that such things are send to your contacts already and thus it isn't an invasion of your privacy (if you feel it is you can disable those things and the contact wouldn't recieve them).

But that does not mean they can do anything they want with it!! It is not put in public domain at all... It is send to your contact only and should stay there unless said otherwise.

For example: when you video-chat to someone, that contact may record the video-chat, even without your approval (this isn't an invasion of privacy) but he may not distribute that video anywhere else without your approval! The same with the text/log of the chat itself, etc...

That difference is extremely important. Unfortunatly many people think that these two things are one and the same, and the one flows automatically out of the other. It is, however, majorly different.

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... But it's my information to what I want with now...(if I hadn't deleted the email :P)
Absolutely false!

She gave her permission to you (and the others) to know the information. She did not gave her permission to publish it in any way, nor to misuse it...

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Originally posted by DejaVoo
Damn, I didn’t mean to offend anyone…
surely didn't offended me though. In fact, you raise good points and stuff which many people ask themselfs too and/or get wrong...

So, as for the DP example, it is the same as with a video-chat. It isn't an invasion of privacy that someone can "steal" it ("copy" it would be better since, as you know, nothing is stolen at all). However, it is not a good sign of trust that the contact will copy and/or redistribute your own made graphic just like that.

But, most of the DPs are graphics which _are_ in the public domain, so there is no real problem with those. Of course, since most of them are in the public domain, or come from the public domain, or many people don't care that others "steal" them, it is very often wrongfully assumed that _all_ DPs are public domain.

But the DP issue, for example, is an issue of copyright, which is different than invasion of privacy....

If you put up a DP which you created and it contained your telephone number: it would be an invasion of your privacy if your contact would publish that phonenumber in public, and it would be a copyright breach if he used that DP as his own.

This post was edited on 05-14-2008 at 04:52 PM by CookieRevised.
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who's apeering offline? - by hugo46 on 05-12-2008 at 09:53 AM
RE: who's apeering offline? - by Th3rmal on 05-12-2008 at 09:57 AM
RE: who's apeering offline? - by Spunky on 05-12-2008 at 09:58 AM
RE: who's apeering offline? - by MeEtc on 05-12-2008 at 09:58 AM
RE: who's apeering offline? - by Th3rmal on 05-12-2008 at 10:00 AM
RE: who's apeering offline? - by Spunky on 05-12-2008 at 10:03 AM
RE: who's apeering offline? - by mynetx on 05-12-2008 at 10:10 AM
RE: who's apeering offline? - by Quantum on 05-12-2008 at 03:21 PM
RE: who's apeering offline? - by CookieRevised on 05-12-2008 at 05:23 PM
RE: who's apeering offline? - by DejaVoo on 05-12-2008 at 11:26 PM
RE: who's apeering offline? - by CookieRevised on 05-12-2008 at 11:38 PM
RE: who's apeering offline? - by DejaVoo on 05-13-2008 at 04:11 AM
RE: who's apeering offline? - by CookieRevised on 05-14-2008 at 12:52 PM
RE: who's apeering offline? - by Aardvark on 05-14-2008 at 03:08 PM
RE: who's apeering offline? - by DejaVoo on 05-14-2008 at 03:28 PM
RE: who's apeering offline? - by CookieRevised on 05-14-2008 at 04:34 PM
RE: RE: who's apeering offline? - by Aardvark on 05-15-2008 at 05:08 AM
RE: who's apeering offline? - by CookieRevised on 05-15-2008 at 09:31 AM
RE: RE: who's apeering offline? - by Aardvark on 05-15-2008 at 09:39 AM
RE: who's apeering offline? - by CookieRevised on 05-15-2008 at 11:25 AM
RE: who's apeering offline? - by Aardvark on 05-15-2008 at 11:35 AM
RE: who's apeering offline? - by sinancetinkaya on 05-15-2008 at 01:56 PM
RE: who's apeering offline? - by Aardvark on 05-15-2008 at 01:58 PM
RE: who's apeering offline? - by CookieRevised on 05-15-2008 at 02:01 PM
RE: who's apeering offline? - by Sam Walsh on 05-15-2008 at 04:56 PM
RE: who's apeering offline? - by CookieRevised on 05-15-2008 at 05:40 PM
RE: RE: who's apeering offline? - by Sam Walsh on 05-15-2008 at 05:45 PM
RE: who's apeering offline? - by CookieRevised on 05-15-2008 at 05:47 PM
RE: RE: who's apeering offline? - by Sam Walsh on 05-15-2008 at 05:53 PM
RE: who's apeering offline? - by CookieRevised on 05-15-2008 at 06:10 PM
RE: who's apeering offline? - by Sam Walsh on 05-15-2008 at 06:14 PM
RE: who's apeering offline? - by Aardvark on 05-16-2008 at 03:54 AM


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