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theloginisbroken
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O.P. Cool  Sponsor software idea
You know, everone that I've talked to installed MsgPlus! the first time with the sponsor software and all of them said it messed with their computer and they hated it. Many people uninstalled Plus! because of it and only re-installed it after I told them how to keep the problems from comming back (the problems DID stop when they uninstalled at least). I personally had to remove it the first time because it messed with my network's internet filter and was creating some 1000 "hits" (blocked or unauthorized internet requests) every hour.

It seems to me that if you want people to agree to allow the sponsor ads you might want to consider changing the way it works. (Having never personally actually SEEN the program in action--because my filter stopped it--I don't know exactly what it does) But it seems that if you give people the option of turing it on or off at any time and let them CHOOSE what kind of ads come to them, then ask them to support Plus! by allowing some ads, you'd get a lot more people using it. (I'm assuming that the sponsor is paying based partly on how many people install with their ads.)

If you allow them to turn it on or off at any  time, let them choose a few things that interest them, maybe even let them choose how often ads appear people would probably be more willing to tolerate it...

Just a thought.

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03-22-2004 06:30 PM
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RE: Sponsor software idea
The sponsor program is 100% optional and this is made clear in the installer…and Patchou puts the sponsor program in so he can get money and I don’t blame him I mean look at how much effort he puts in to Plus!...he needs some money in return
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Oh, I absolutely agree (THANK YOU PATCHOU!) What I'm saying isn't that he should consider dumping it, I'm saying that if he's paid by how much it's used it might be better if he still gives the option, but makes it more friendly so that people are more LIKELY to allow it to send ads.

What I mean is, I don't give a hoot about diet pills, dating services, casinos etc. But I might be interested in ads for some other areas, say maybe online shopping just as an example. If people know what they are getting they are more likely to agree to allow ads. If they didn't have to uninstall to stop the ads, that would be good too.

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03-22-2004 07:05 PM
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RE: Sponsor software idea
Nah. This sponsor he uses is good in the way it’s optional and totally removable…and most people don’t install it
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Nah. This sponsor he uses is good in the way it’s optional and totally removable…and most people don’t install it

Seems like you're missing the point. :p

I agree with theloginisbroken... if the sponsor program was customizable so it displayed interesting and relevant stuff depending upon the person's interests (in my case IT-related stuff and online shopping), people could actually get something useful out of installing it, thus not uninstalling it again shortly after installation (which of course also means more money for Patchou). :)

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RE: Sponsor software idea
As long as I know, the sponsor shows adds in function of the pages you visit, you the adds shown should be similar to what you're browsing so you like them... again, that's what i think...
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But it seems that if you give people the option of turing it on or off at any time
imo, people won't remember to turn it off/on once it's installed and turned on/off... It'd be always on or always off, and that's the same as selecting if you want to install it or not.

anyway, thelogingisbroken's ideas are good.

btw, if the login is broken, why don't you ask an adming to help you to log with your old account?
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RE: RE: RE: Sponsor software idea
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Seems like you're missing the point. :p

I agree with theloginisbroken... if the sponsor program was customizable so it displayed interesting and relevant stuff depending upon the person's interests (in my case IT-related stuff and online shopping), people could actually get something useful out of installing it, thus not uninstalling it again shortly after installation (which of course also means more money for Patchou). :)

//ZrednaZ


I do not agree... I prefer that the installation should be changed - mostley because nobody reads it and also because it is not a logic way to ask people if they accept. People are use to accept almost everything and they know that if they do not accept it is impossible to hit Next (not in this case).
I propose that the text of the RadioButton should be changed...

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RE: Sponsor software idea
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I prefer that the installation should be changed - mostley because nobody reads it and also because it is not a logic way to ask people if they accept. People are use to accept almost everything and they know that if they do not accept it is impossible to hit Next (not in this case).
I propose that the text of the RadioButton should be changed
if people can't / don't read it's their fault not ours neither Patchou's.

change the installation? isn't it clear enough? what would you put in the text of the radio buttons? the texts are concise and obvious
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RE: Sponsor software idea
To the two posters above me, please spamming, keep it for T&T and to any mod Please remove Kian's avatar as its an SWF File that takes forever to load then its not even found on the server.

Thanks

Anyways all the people should be happy that the option is there to not install the Sponsor. What about programs like Kazaa who install "New Dot Not", "Gator", "n-Case" and others. I dont hear you guys complaining about that whos installation is hidden and is installed once you agree to the license agreement.

So please before you critic something, think of the people doing it without your knowledge then after comparing you may complain.

Oh and for the record, Its Optional again It clear stats "I ACCEPT, install Messenger Plus! with the sponsor prorgam"
"I refuse, do not install the sponsor program"


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RE: Sponsor software idea
I understand the suggestions and they are not bad. However, as most people who complain about the sponsor didn't even try to uninstall Messenger Plus! (which is the first thin I would personally tried).

There's two main things that are installed: a search bar and a search window. The bar is small enough in Internet Explorer not to bother you after you get used to it, and the search window can be closed for good (one of the things I requested from C2Media).

The ads are displayed according to what sites you go to. It's a simple way to ensure that you don't get tons of ads for products you dont care about (like casinos).
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