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I see there are discussions about why the valencian language is included when its so close to catalan.

Well I would also say, why have catalan, when 100% of the people living in catalonia have spanish as a mothertounge too, just as catalan. Catalan should be obsolete..

Anyway... I guess people should be able to use their prefered language... So what about dialects? I would like the dialect of Stavanger to be added to the languages of MSN Plus.

Am I asking for too much now? I hope not!

If you want to, you can translate Plus! in your own dialect(s) .

Unfortunately, like we have discussed before, dialects will not be included to the installer.
Dialects can be posted in Translation forum, if I'm not mistaken.
Maybe some people need it.

Then I'll do it

Btw, how can one say that valencian is not a dialect of catalan?

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Originally posted by dragonball
Btw, how can one say that valencian is not a dialect of catalan?

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I can't answer your question since I know nothing about it .
However, after a quick search, I found this http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=17...d=155088#pid155088

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Originally posted by dragonball
Then I'll do it

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Wait for Sunday tho when Messenger Plus! is released, that way your not updating an older Language file

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Originally posted by Matty.

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Originally posted by dragonball
Then I'll do it

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Wait for Sunday tho when Messenger Plus! is released, that way your not updating an older Language file

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Thanks mate! I was about to start now...

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Originally posted by thekid

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Originally posted by dragonball
Btw, how can one say that valencian is not a dialect of catalan?

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I can't answer your question since I know nothing about it .
However, after a quick search, I found this http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=17...d=155088#pid155088

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Hehe... I dunno very much about neither spanish nor catalan, but they also look very similar.. Maybe like norwegian and swedish? 50% of the words have a cutted ending in catalan (Catalán -> Català, and estación -> estació for example),

and ix (ca) -> j (es), baixa -> baja
and ñ (es) -> ny (ca), Cataluña -> Catalunya

Maybe I step on some catalan toes now... Hehe... But take it easy all catalan patriots! Visca Catalunya!

I think I will work on getting Stavangersk registered as a language Anyone with me? (I like this emoticon)

Please edit your posts instead of double posting.

You seem to know alot of english why not just translate the Default English File to the language you want

Catalan is diferent from spanish and I agree on that language being included in Plus, the same as if there were languages like galician or basque. About valencian, well, it's more similar to catalan than to spanish and that's the reason why people complained about it being included in plus. They said that catalan and valencian are very similar languages (that's true) and that valencian was a dialect of catalan (this can be debatible). Anyway, if valencian has been included in plus and as long as there are some people who cares about translating plus into valencian I think it shouldn't be removed from plus.

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Originally posted by dragonball
50% of the words have a cutted ending in catalan (Catalán -> Català, and estación -> estació for example),

and ix (ca) -> j (es), baixa -> baja
and ñ (es) -> ny (ca), Cataluña -> Catalunya

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just coincidences. take a look at these plus 3 texts:
salir (es) -> eixir (ca)
por favor (es) -> si us plau (ca)
ventana (es) -> finestra (ca)
añadir (es) -> Afegeix (ca)

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Originally posted by Choli
and ix (ca) -> j (es), baixa -> baja
and ñ (es) -> ny (ca), Cataluña -> Catalunya

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just coincidences. take a look at these plus 3 texts:
salir (es) -> eixir (ca)
por favor (es) -> si us plau (ca)
ventana (es) -> finestra (ca)
añadir (es) -> Afegeix (ca)

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Yeah.. I know that there are many words that are very diffrent in catalan, and that talking catalan is quite diffrent from spanish (broader L's, no arabic sounds etc), and the sentences looks more like a mixture of spanich, french and maybe italian... And por favor can also be per favor? And many v's change to b's? Hehe... Interesting the language situation in Catalonia Some day I want to learn both Spanish and Catalan.

I also agree that Catalan should be a part of the included languages in msgplus, but if Valencian is included, then also other dialects...

Btw, anyone who knows this:
1. How many people talk and write Valencian?
2. People from other parts of spain, how well do they understand Catalan (without learned it yet).

And by all means, I do love catalans and their culture... Spanish culture is way to macho/barabaric for my taste (Bullfighing etc)...