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O.P. I am about to rip my hair out over MS Messanger
I have used all methods i have found to disable it
I have turned off the settings
I used Messanger Disable
I have no autostart entries for it in the registry or startup folder
But when i turn my computer on it runs
When I open msn messanger it opens with it then when I exit it, it comes back on after about 10 minutes or so

I dont want to get rid of because of the api stuff

Someone help!
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05-31-2004 02:34 PM
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RE: I am about to rip my hair out over MS Messanger
I've had the same problem (Windows Messenger).
I used Messenger Disable to kill it, but I found that disabling it 'For the current user only' doesn't work, and disabling it 'System-wide' does work, but causes MSN Messenger to hang for a few seconds (about half a minute) when it starts. Very annoying.
Try switching between those two though; it might work for you, since I use alot of patching and tweaking.. it might be because of my odd config.

In the end I had to just uninstall it..
Hope you find a better way, I searched the entire hard disk and even did a search through all the files of my hard disk for the entry msmsgr.exe (or whatever it's called - forgot the exact filename). No results.. Must be hardcoded in Windows or something ? I wondered about how it started and if there is no apparant way of disabling it.. wether it wouldn't form a huge security risk.. suppose another program could use whatever startup method this one uses.. say.. a Trojan..
Meh @ Microsoft.

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Cool  RE: I am about to rip my hair out over MS Messanger
There is a way to uninstall, the easy way anyways.

Go to Start->All Programs->Accessories->System Tools->Disk Cleanup

Wait until it presents you with the dialogue box (usually 2-5 minutes). Flip to the More Options tab and select Clean up Optional Windows Components. You will see this window:

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Uncheck Windows Messenger and you're done.

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05-31-2004 03:18 PM
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RE: I am about to rip my hair out over MS Messanger
Warning: Do not delete windows messenger as MSN messenger may need some of its resources.

Simply stop it from running by doing the following: Start > Configurationscreen, Systemmanagement, Services (local) ... look for messenger rightclick and choose properties then disable it from runnin  (i totally disabled it...not turn it to manual). The way i described is how it works in Win XP.

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O.P. RE: RE: I am about to rip my hair out over MS Messanger
Sunshine i did that but it was still opening with Msn Messanger could MP!3 be opening it? because i didnt have this problem before upgrading
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RE: I am about to rip my hair out over MS Messanger
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Originally posted by Black_Forky
I dont want to get rid of because of the api stuff
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Originally posted by Chaotic_Shield
There is a way to uninstall, the easy way anyways.
* lhunath whistles.

Disabling the service doesn't help. Well, it sure in hell didn't help with me..
The only way is this :
Start => Run..
type: GPEDIT.MSC
Go to Administrative Templates
Then to Windows Components
On to Windows Messenger

There you have two settings to disable Windows Messenger. Set them both to be sure ;)
That's what Messenger Disable does by the way, I think... Did you try doing it with Messenger Disable for System Wide ? Try that first.
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RE: RE: RE: I am about to rip my hair out over MS Messanger
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Originally posted by Black_Forky
Sunshine i did that but it was still opening with Msn Messanger could MP!3 be opening it? because i didnt have this problem before upgrading


Have u disabled messenger that way in an account with administratorpriviledges? If not do so there aswell (reboot into safemode and choose administrator account) ;)

If that still doesnt solve it try the following:
Now u have set messenger not to run u could try uninstall plus (Start, configurationscreen, software) reboot then reinstall, hopefully that will solve ur prob ;)

I have done nothin besides disabling messenger as i described an have no such probs :D

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RE: I am about to rip my hair out over MS Messanger
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Originally posted by lhunath
quote:
Originally posted by Black_Forky
I dont want to get rid of because of the api stuff
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Originally posted by Chaotic_Shield
There is a way to uninstall, the easy way anyways.
* lhunath whistles.


Disabling the service doesn't help. Well, it sure in hell didn't help with me..
The only way is this :
Start => Run..
type: GPEDIT.MSC
Go to Administrative Templates
Then to Windows Components
On to Windows Messenger

There you have two settings to disable Windows Messenger. Set them both to be sure ;)
That's what Messenger Disable does by the way, I think... Did you try doing it with Messenger Disable for System Wide ? Try that first.

That method is only for Windows XP Professional. Please take a look at my link below on howto disable Windows Messenger

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Originally posted by Sunshine
Warning: Do not delete windows messenger as MSN messenger may need some of its resources.

Simply stop it from running by doing the following: Start > Configurationscreen, Systemmanagement, Services (local) ... look for messenger rightclick and choose properties then disable it from runnin  (i totally disabled it...not turn it to manual). The way i described is how it works in Win XP.

That wont disable Windows Messenger from running, that disables the services that alows computers to use the netsend command to send messages to other computers.

What you are looking for is right here :)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb...89&Product=WinMsgr

If you disable Windows Messenger from running and if you use outlook express I suggest editing this into your registry

code:
[Start] [Run] [Regedit]
Registry Key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Outlook Express
Modify/Create the Value Name according to the Value Data listed below.
Data Type: REG_DWORD [Dword Value] // Value Name: Hide Messenger
Value Data: [2 = Messenger Will Not Load]
Exit Registry and Reboot
That way, Outlook Express wont try and open WIndows Messenger and take 5 mins doing it.


To Completly remove Windows Messenger from the computer do this
code:
Click [Start] [Run] and in the [Open:] box type or copy/paste the following command
RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove
Click [OK]

Now by doing this, you may limit programs and addons for Messenger from actuall working. (Not a good idea if you program addons for Messenger)

To reinstall download file from here.


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This post was edited on 05-31-2004 at 04:36 PM by matty.
05-31-2004 04:19 PM
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O.P. RE: I am about to rip my hair out over MS Messanger
OK so msmsgs.exe doesn't have to be running for the api to be used......right?

My problem is that when i open MSN Messanger, Windows Messanger opens along with it and then when i close Windows Messanger it comes back on for no apparent reason a few minutes later

I dont want to do a disable that disables the api

as all of your solutions do

This post was edited on 05-31-2004 at 10:33 PM by Black_Forky.
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RE: I am about to rip my hair out over MS Messanger
*caugh* Windows Messenger Disable tool
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