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Oh geez, Bush was re-elected.  *Mumbles*Stupid Republicans*Mumbles*.  Another four years of crap from Bush.  Well, at least I live in Canada.  I still don't see how any logical person would ever vote Bush(Unless you're like hardcore "I'm christian").  Oh well, in four years it'll be a win-win situation if Rudy Juliani(sp?) and Hilary Clinton run.  They're both from New York so Juliani is like half-democrat.  That'll be good, hopefully they'll end this pointless war in Iraq.  I'm now starting to wonder if Iraq was better off with Saddam as a leader.

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Originally posted by ABC123
I still don't see how any logical person would ever vote Bush (Unless you're like hardcore "I'm christian").

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Errr, well, one of the big reasons why Bush has won is because many "hardcore" Catholics voted in last instance on a massive scale for Bush (because he is against abortion, euthanasia, gay-marriages).

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Originally posted by ABC123
I'm now starting to wonder if Iraq was better off with Saddam as a leader.

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There's no way they were better off with him, he was a nut job. 

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Originally posted by pr0xy
Originally posted by ABC123
I'm now starting to wonder if Iraq was better off with Saddam as a leader

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Wot a Dumb Comment, people Were Killed Coz of that Murderer

Religion is a stupid thing to base your president on.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/st...P/00/epolls.0.html
^Quite interesting in regards to how important intelligence is over religious faith...

Bush is a man who invaded a country because he claims God told him to. I have nver herd such BS. He is a man who brings in the kindergarten cop to get votes. Never have I seen such BS.  And he's a world leader, it's a sad sad time for this world.

And with the whole "abortions should be illegal", yeah they sometimes should. But in some circumstances it would be far better off (for every one).

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Originally posted by ABC123
I'm now starting to wonder if Iraq was better off with Saddam as a leader.

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Well there hasn't been any culling, nor has there been any threat of one so I'm going to say, they are better off...

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Originally posted by TheBlasphemer

If sad-ham was so bad, how come people where still fighting for him when the americans got him? there was no more oppression since he was obviously unabel to being captured by the americans, so there must've been another reason...

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Just because they were loyal to him doesn't mean he was good...I mean they are extremists, they're virtually brainwashed into their line of thought. Overall I think the majority are happier, but the extremist minority are unhappy. As always the unhappy (and dangerous) extremists will get more attention.

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Originally posted by eckocomplex
Religion is a stupid thing to base your president on.

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Is it? Think about it...Most of the southern Christians, you'll have a hard time trying to find more morally and ethical folks...Bush does have morals and ethics and this does make a good leader...

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
one of the big reasons why Bush has won is because many "hardcore" Catholics voted in last instance on a massive scale for Bush

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From what I heard it was more Christians in general than Catholics...new-born Christians mainly, I may be wrong...just curious about that

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Originally posted by Demandred
Wot a Dumb Comment, people Were Killed Coz of that Murderer

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If he was left there he would have killed more. 

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Originally posted by TheBlasphemer
If sad-ham was so bad, how come people where still fighting for him when the americans got him? there was no more oppression since he was obviously unabel to being captured by the americans, so there must've been another reason...

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Because they were as fucked up in the head as he was.  And not all were fighting for him, alot are terroriest that are going by what they think their religion tells them to do.  And some are people who plainly hate America cause they've been taught to hate america ever since birth.

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Originally posted by eckocomplex
Religion is a stupid thing to base your president on.

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The United States Of America was based on Religion.  Almost everyone that lived here during the Revolutionary war, and Civil War, were Christians.  Religion WAS the back bone of this country.  Now if you look at our society, its the way it is because religion is not stress as important anymore. 

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Originally posted by pr0xy
Now if you look at our society, its the way it is because religion is not stress as important anymore.

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This has nothing todo with religion not being important anymore.

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Originally posted by Anubis
Bush does have morals and ethics and this does make a good leader

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Everybody has morals and ethics, even extremists like Osama Bin Laden. Having them has nothing todo with being a good leader or not. The question is are those morals and ethics the ones that the general people agree with...

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Originally posted by ABC123
I'm now starting to wonder if Iraq was better off with Saddam as a leader.

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In our western eyes not. But this was not the world's issue/division. The issue was how to put Saddam down. America and UK choose to directly invade, start a war and drive him out. Others wanted to try the diplomatic/political/economical way first to prevent the things which are happening right now....

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Originally posted by CookieRevised

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Originally posted by pr0xy
Now if you look at our society, its the way it is because religion is not stress as important anymore.

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This has nothing todo with religion not being important anymore.

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I didn't say it did. I was replying back to what eckocomplex said about it being bad to base your president on religion.  Then I made a comment about how our society in the US is getting more corrupt because the line that separated what was right and wrong has been stretched so far that we now have the idea that its up to ourselfs to decide what is right and wrong, and I think thats a bad thing.  Anyways, I said that because it had something to do with some of the reply's, I'm just too lazy and tired to look for it right now. 

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Originally posted by eckocomplex
Religion is a stupid thing to base your president on.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/st...P/00/epolls.0.html
^Quite interesting in regards to how important intelligence is over religious faith...

Bush is a man who invaded a country because he claims God told him to. I have nver herd such BS. He is a man who brings in the kindergarten cop to get votes. Never have I seen such BS.  And he's a world leader, it's a sad sad time for this world.

And with the whole "abortions should be illegal", yeah they sometimes should. But in some circumstances it would be far better off (for every one).

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Wow, that link is really interesting.. it turns out that of people who found honest/trustworthy most important, 70% voted Bush!

No way!

And I don't see why so many people are against abortion. I mean, the world is getting crowded, and those babies are unwanted anyway. And about it being murder -- who cares? Africa is full of people we are just letting to starve. And America has the death penalty, as Cookie said. IMO, letting people starve in Africa is closer to murder than abortion.

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Originally posted by http://www.perkel.com/politics/issues/abortion.htm
Teen Pregnancy, Slavery, and Prostitution

The most common form of prostitution in America isn't street walkers or escort services. The most common form of prostitution are young unwed mothers who have to do whatever it takes to find food and shelter for their children. If a woman without skills and family support is stuck trying to earn a living and support the children, she has few options. She is forced to find a man to move in with to take care of her and her kids. In order to get a man to do this, she has to have sex with him and be his personal slave so that she can survive. In many cases, she has no choice. Our society seems to find this acceptable. I don't. An abortion can prevent a teenager from having their lives ruined by an untimely pregnancy and allow them to finish school, learn a trade, and select the mate they want rather than being stuck with the first guy who comes along. Abortion liberates women from the life of a whore/slave and allows her to control her own life and decide for herself when and with whom she will have children.

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