Shoutbox

i'd go for the mini just cause it looks cooler then the iRiver in my opinion and the interface is muchhhh better, altho it would be better if it supported wma's, its pretty easy to convert to wma from mp3 if there's no DRM

if its just an extra $60 then go for the iPod by all means

there was an mp3 player advertised here in Australia
i think it was by Creative

It had a colour screen so it could view movies, pictures, etc, fm radio and of course an mp3 player
I think it was 40 or 80 Gb for AU$700

k, i dont see y ppl need so much space n e ways
so wat its 1000 extra songs, its not liek ur gonna listen to all the songs, 256MB is good enuff for me

IRiver

Longer battery's, WMA, Radio, Recorder....

And 1GB is enough for me