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can i ask where you getting your stats/info from ??

yes somepeople may think there a few to many options/features, but the majory of people don't !! because they find the features useful

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Originally posted by DeltaBlast
The people that don't like things usually stay quiet and move on

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again see no evidence of this, search the forum you will see that many people come and post ther opinions and thngs

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Originally posted by DeltaBlast
take half an hour

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you can sign up and post a thread with in about 5 mins

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Originally posted by DeltaBlast
My point is that you guys only see one side of the story.

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now you can see wot i'm thinking

"can i ask where you getting your stats/info from ??"
>>From quite a big range of friends/contacts/family, and I think that they represent the larger population quite well.

"again see no evidence of this, search the forum you will see that many people come and post ther opinions and thngs"
>>. . . That is my point. You don't see those people because they don't post. For every user that posts here there are 100s, maybe 1000s who don't.

"you can sign up and post a thread with in about 5 mins"
>>>If you are lucky, yes. But there are the possible mail problems, the filling in of the profile, the actual typing of a good arguemented posts... it can easily take up to half an hour
But even 5 minutes is often too much nowadays.

There has been such a discussion before. Basically, if there are features you don't want, don't use them. Sure there are lots of features, but the way Plus 3 was designed was to make the preferences easier to use.

The people I know who use Plus have never had a problem using just the features they want. Certainly there are people who don't use all the features and just leave them alone.

If there was a "Plus Lite" version there would be too much arguement about what features should be kept and those that should be left out. Also it would mean a lot more work for Patchou. Its easier all round just to keep one version fits all

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Originally posted by DeltaBlast
and I think that they represent the larger population quite well.

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funniest thing i've heard all day ....... to represent a large part of the population of users you would need to have like a couple million or more friends

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Originally posted by DeltaBlast
For every user that posts here there are 100s, maybe 1000s who don't.

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how can u say that ?!?! you yourself just has just agreed there is no evidence

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Originally posted by DeltaBlast
If you are lucky, yes. But there are the possible mail problems, the filling in of the profile, the actual typing of a good arguemented posts... it can easily take up to half an hour
But even 5 minutes is often too much nowadays

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well if the person is really that bothered then they will take the time to post !!

also wots 30mins out of your life time, something like 0.00000000000000001% (thats juts a guess, but u get the picture, its a very small ammount of time)

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Jeronimo stop posting replies that had already been said

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Originally posted by Jeronimo
If there was a "Plus Lite" version there would be too much arguement about what features should be kept and those that should be left out. Also it would mean a lot more work for Patchou. Its easier all round just to keep one version fits all

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That's why I suggested the seperate part. That way, users can pick what they want to install and what not. Because of that, even more feutures (that now reside in plugins, like better file transfer) could be made part of the whole program. Thus making it a better world ^_^

Why is it so hard to install a program and when you dont want a function/feature then: DONT USE IT. No need for an Plus! Lite
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Originally posted by Patchou
a lite version is out of the question

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http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=22...d=217814#pid217814

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Originally posted by toddy
funniest thing i've heard all day ....... to represent a large part of the population of users you would need to have like a couple million or more friends
>>do you even know what representing means? I have friends, contacts etc of many kinds, throughout the world. sure, it isn't a super acurate representation, but it gives you quite a global image.

how can u say that ?!?! you yourself just has just agreed there is no evidence
>>... do you see 2 million people register here each month? pff

well if the person is really that bothered then they will take the time to post !!
>> That's just the point: they aren't bothered enough to take the time to post. it's easier just not to use the program. And it's unlikely that posting about it is going to improve the situation... (that's why all of this is fairly pointless )

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"Why is it so hard to install a program and when you dont want a function/feature then: DONT USE IT. "

You have to disable each item seperately, and they take up space and memory. Like said before. Please read next time before you start using caps.

Anyway, seeing as lite is out of the question, let's continue this as a suggestion for seperate functions

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Originally posted by DeltaBlast
That's why I suggested the seperate part. That way, users can pick what they want to install and what not. Because of that, even more feutures (that now reside in plugins, like better file transfer) could be made part of the whole program. Thus making it a better world ^_^

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How would this be done though? How can you make the preference panel so that it only contains some features? It would have to split up every feature and make the preferences more complex and unorganised.

Firefox is the same as Plus. I don't think there is a version of Firefox where you choose what to install and what not to. You get one version of Firefox and you can add extensions to it. You get one version of Plus and you can add plugins to it. Its a system that works already.

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Originally posted by DeltaBlast
You have to disable each item seperately, and they take up space and memory. Like said before. Please read next time before you start using caps.

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The install program to ver. 3.25 is 3.42 mb, if that takes up a lot of space then you need to buy a bigger HDD. And Plus! dont use a lot of memory.

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Originally posted by DeltaBlast
but it gives you quite a global image

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wots globe image got to do with owt ??? face it, you and your friends are a very very small percentage of the group of users

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Originally posted by DeltaBlast
do you see 2 million people register here each month?

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so u think theres 2 million people that have problems with it

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Originally posted by DeltaBlast
You have to disable each item seperately

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no u don't, most feature can't be disable.....u just don't use them !! eg notifications (which you say is useless) can't be disable, u just don't turn them on