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ahh mate.. your confused there

the NV40 / Nv50 / GL70 all do 64bit FP / 128bit FP

its a bit confusing, i only recently learnt how it works myself

64bit FP actually is for 16bp Pixel Shaders.. and 128b FP is for 32bp pixel shaders

even the FX series had 128b FP

ATI uses true precision which is 24bit in MS DX standards

Nvidia capitalised on the notion that not all shader paths would need the true precision and so they made the 16bit half precision and the 32bit full precision

the reason they did this is becoz 24 isn't a viable number when doing shading, which they found out when Dx first introduced 24bit true colour,.. which didn't last long

Nvidias first attempt, ie the FX series was a near failure as the core wasn't strong enough and didn't have enough Pixel Pipelines to stand upagainst atis 9600/9700/9800

and sony did ask Nvidia to give them the most powerful gpu,. but as if they are gunna give them the greatest gpu ever

at the time it was. but nvidia have done alot in the last few months and the GL70 (7800) is the result

the RSX engine was and still is a Hybrid design of the Nv50/GL70, and the reason for this is becoz when sony asked for it they were still researching what they could add to the next gpu

as such the gl70 took a lil longer then usual to complete but it still has more features over the RSX

but,.. only time will tell, to who has the right info

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Originally posted by raceprouk
I can see this argument going nowhere. Shall we just agree to disagree and call it a day?

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I ask you to just drop it, as the argument's going nowhere, so what do you do? You carry on! No wonder you got banned before!

i wasn't  continuing the argument,.. i was clearing up your confusion of the 64bit FP

You weren't: you were continuing the argument. Otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned the whole 'hybrid' thing again.

For God's sake, will you please just drop this? I have!

its dropped

anyways.. so i loaded up starlancer this morning and guess freaking what

4 yrs of trying to get cloaking to work properly and it decides to work  i've tried all Det 40's FW 50's FW 60's and FW70's makes it work

i made sure by testing it on my mx440 and it works there as well

i haven't been able to get cloaking right since my geforce 2

my old Voodoo2 did it perfect... really strange

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Originally posted by squall_leonhart69r
its dropped

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Not sure what's dodgy, but hey, doesn't matter

I suppose the question is what will ATI do to combat this card?

they shall release the R520 which has 24 pipelines, and SM3.0 technology... which is about time for ati to do so

32 piped models are in the plans as well

still.. the latest ATI drivers are quite shockingly CRAP

techconnect recently did a driver comparison article, leaving the writer quite happy he chose nvidia

Mind you, NVidia have had driver problems in the past. They seem to have been solved by now though.

yeah, i just can't understand what would be so hard to get it right after all this time

nvidia have been around as long as ati, and the only problems i've seen lately were with the FX series.. which although weren't good in PS2.0 games it was a very powerful card indeed in 1.1/1.4 and in Opengl games

but  whats cool is

all cards from the FX and up support Opengl2.0

Got a BIG offtopic question It's about Ati... What is this Hydrovision thing?