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Originally posted by dreaded

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It is only DURING/AFTER they have a STRONG suspicion or EVIDENCE of a CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL that they authorize/request logging of conversations. AND ONLY THOSE CONVERSATIONS, nothing more.

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Your words not mine. And lets face it. People want me to prove they do . Prove to me they dont. You do not work for microsoft so you cannot say for sure they dont. Now prove they dont lol.

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What on earth don't you understand about the bold words???????? I even had put them in bold because I anticipated you would, again, pull things out of context... djeez...

or as Sunshine put it more clearly:

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ONLY if you are a criminal and a request has been made and aproved by the government to log your chats, only then they will be logged.

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And that is something completely different than what has been claimed by paranoids...

Plz, learn how to read and interpret stuff, as I have always said the very same things from post one; I have nothing "admitted", changed, twisted or whatever at all...

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Originally posted by s7a5
I wasn't trying to prove that they do it whenever they want just because they are interested in the contents of your conversation.

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eeerrrmm:

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Originally posted by s7a5
no, i was talking about smth that encrypts messages while they are being sent through msn servers. As you might be aware that all chats are actually loged by msn.

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Ok my bad I went and read your first post again, you did say they would log.

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2) If they would do that without reasons they will get sued like nobody has ever been sued before

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Logging traffic like this is absolutely illegal, unless the feds have got a very good reasons to do so.

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What I say still goes. If you want me to prove they do then you have to prove to me that they don't. Bottom line no one that has posted as far as I know works for microsoft and has not said they have. No one has said yes I do work for ms and that he/she knows for a fact they do not. No one has said they have emailed or called ms and said and have confirmed they don't.

To be honest, who cares to encrypt or what?  You're not going to send like CC numbers or such..

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Originally posted by dreaded
What I say still goes. If you want me to prove they do then you have to prove to me that they don't. Bottom line no one that has posted as far as I know works for microsoft and has not said they have. No one has said yes I do work for ms and that he/she knows for a fact they do not. No one has said they have emailed or called ms and said and have confirmed they don't.

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You are the one thinking they log, so why don't you call them yourself? You started by saying they do log, so you are the one to proove they do first, we have seen no proof sofar!

Think rationally for a bit:
1. There are millions of people using MSNM every day, how much space would it take to save all those logs if they would? You don't seriously believe Microsoft (or anybody for that matter) would spend money on something as useless as that now do you?
2. What use are the logs of an average joe to them? They don't know you, what's it to them who you talk to and about what? "Hi, how was your day, bladi bladi bla?" Ohh how interesting

Like I said you before Bottom line no one that has posted as far as I know works for microsoft and has not said they have. No one has said yes I do work for ms and that he/she knows for a fact they do not. No one has said they have emailed or called ms and said and have confirmed they don't. You want to find out what all they log you call. I dont care what you or anyone else says till you get something from microsoft saying what they do or do not log.

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Originally posted by dreaded
Like I said you before Bottom line no one that has posted as far as I know works for microsoft and has not said they have. No one has said yes I do work for ms and that he/she knows for a fact they do not. No one has said they have emailed or called ms and said and have confirmed they don't. You want to find out what all they log you call. I dont care what you or anyone else says till you get something from microsoft saying what they do or do not log.

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You are the one who wants to know, not us.
You want to find out what all they log you call.

Where have I said I wanted to know? I already know what I need to know. All I have said is if your want me to prove they do then prove to me they dont. Do you work for microsof and know?

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Originally posted by dreaded
Where have I said I wanted to know? I already know what I need to know. All I have said is if your want me to prove they do then prove to me they dont. Do you work for microsof and know?

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You have given us no proof as to whether or not the people at MSN are logging our conversations.

There isn't really a need for encrypting the messages sent through the server. I doubt it would be made.

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Originally posted by dreaded
I already know what I need to know. All I have said is if your want me to prove they do then prove to me they dont.

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Believe whatever you want, that is your perfect right...

However, the main issue is that we really don't need people like you spreading these urban myths (as this costs us time to correct these, time we could have spend helping other people out).

If you want to believe Big Brother is watching you, then fine. If you want to be the paranoid, fine... But please don't infect and scare other people with that nonsense unless YOU have SOLID proof for it...

Well linx05 if there is no need why do other messengers have it built in. And no one said you had to post back anything CookieRevised. And you have not given me any proof that they dont linx05. I am not scaring anyone. This is the last post I will make. Cause it obivious no one can or want to prove each other wrong lol.