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Finally a good brazilian portuguese translation.

Finalmente uma boa tradu��o para portugu�s do Brasil.

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Originally posted by rafael_vansolini

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Originally posted by Heyder
Attachment: Messenger Plus! BRASIL.zip (39.14 KB) This file has been downloaded 1291 time(s).

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Almost 1300!

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I only have to thank the privilege that I am having to give a present to all the Brazilians with a translation worthy of Messenger Plus!
The ascending number of downloads just show to everyone, more and more, (including Mr. Patchou and their administrators), that Brazil has THOUSANDS of MSN Messenger and Messenger Plus! users, and that for that, should deserve an official translation of this beautiful program.
I wait sincerely that one day, Mr. Patchou, there of Canada, look with love at the Brazilian people and give them this privilege!

Eu s� tenho que agradecer o privil�gio que estou tendo de presentear a todos os brasileiros com uma tradu��o digna do Messenger Plus!
O n�mero ascendente de downloads apenas mostra a todo o mundo, cada vez mais, ( inclusive ao Sr. Patchou e seus administradores), que o Brasil t�m MILHARES de usu�rios do MSN Messenger e Messenger Plus!, e que por isso, deveriam merecer uma tradu��o oficial deste belo programa.
Eu espero sinceramente que um dia, o Sr. Patchou, l� do Canad�, olhe com carinho para o povo brasileiro e lhes d� este privil�gio!

Dr. Heyder
BRasil

The download number means not much though.

What is important is the number of users.

For all you know, many people have downloaded the translation just because they are curious, it does not mean they use it. And others might have downloaded it simply multiple times (eg: I know of some people that they simple download all unofficial languages multiple times). All these figures are simply added to the total amount of downloads but that certainly does not mean you have +2000 users! Downloads and users are two different things.

BTW: Though, I would have congratulated you if it weren't for the constant bitching and whining about making it official and all the other stuff which is dragged into this and especially the constant negative undertones you have in your posts (like insinuating that Patchou "and his administrators" boycot you and what not and don't listen to you). Oh, and don't say you never said such stuff as the language subforum is/was full of these discussions.

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
1) The download number means not much though. What is important is the number of users.
2) For all you know, many people have downloaded the translation just because they are curious, it does not mean they use it. And others might have downloaded it simply multiple times (eg: I know of some people that they simple download all unofficial languages multiple times). All these figures are simply added to the total amount of downloads but that certainly does not mean you have +2000 users! Downloads and users are two different things.
3) BTW: Though, I would have congratulated you if it weren't for the constant bitching and whining about making it official and all the other stuff which is dragged into this and especially the constant negative undertones you have in your posts (like insinuating that Patchou "and his administrators" boycot you and what not and don't listen to you). Oh, and don't say you never said such stuff as the language subforum is/was full of these discussions.

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Look, Cookie:

1) I agree with you. But how to know?
2) I don't agree with you. I don't think the Brazilians act like this.
3) I am not complaining or speaking nonsenses. I just emit my opinion and I think it is my right, well as is a right of Patchou to be silenced and is his right to write in many threads.
BTW: I don't get to see any offense or insinuation in my words when I mention Patchou or his administrators. Just I express my hope. Is there something wrong in that?

1) Concordo com voc�. Mas como saber?
2) Discordo de voc�. Eu n�o acho que os brasileiros ajam assim.
3) N�o estou me lamentando ou falando besteiras. Apenas emito minha opini�o e acho que � um direito meu, assim como � um direito do Patchou ficar calado e � seu direito escrever em muitos threads.
� prop�sito:  Eu n�o consigo ver qualquer ofensa ou insinua��o em minhas palavras quando menciono Patchou ou seus administradores. Eu apenas estou expressando minha esperan�a. H� algo de errado nisso?

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Originally posted by Heyder
I don't get to see any offense or insinuation in my words

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maybe he doesnt refer to you?

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Originally posted by damm-o

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Originally posted by Heyder
I don't get to see any offense or insinuation in my words

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maybe he doesnt refer to you?

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Yes, he is referring to me when I said: "(including Mr. Patchou and his administrators)"...

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Originally posted by Heyder

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Originally posted by damm-o

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Originally posted by Heyder
I don't get to see any offense or insinuation in my words

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maybe he doesnt refer to you?

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Yes, he is referring to me when I said: "(including Mr. Patchou and his administrators)"...

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I was indeed referring to you, but also to other quotes in the same line from other people. I only used that quote as an example of all the other things which has been said in this context.

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Originally posted by Heyder
1) I agree with you. But how to know?

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You don't, unless you do what has been suggested from the very beginning of this whole translation-saga and and mail patchou to ask for an identification ID for your language so he can see how many people use the translation.

It is very clearly explained in the translation guidelines, which, as you should know, can be found on the official main site (and again, this is nothing new, this has been said from the very start).

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Originally posted by Heyder
2) I don't agree with you. I don't think the Brazilians act like this.

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Who says it is only Brazillian people downloading it? This is exactly my whole point. The number says absolutely not that +2000 Brazillians people are using the translation. Anybody (from any country) can download it.

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Originally posted by Heyder
3) I am not complaining or speaking nonsenses. I just emit my opinion and I think it is my right, well as is a right of Patchou to be silenced and is his right to write in many threads.

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For the 6817674165716 time, Patchou does NOT choose to be "silent" or "hide" behind whatever. It is not because he has not replied in here that he does not care. Constantly thinking that and insinuating this shows only how demanding and even selfish this whole thing is. Again the questions pops into my mind: why aren't there any problems with any other (unofficial) language? Maybe because those people who make such languages respect the flow of things, understand that there are procedures to follow, etc... etc...

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Originally posted by Heyder
BTW: I don't get to see any offense or insinuation in my words when I mention Patchou or his administrators. Just I express my hope. Is there something wrong in that?

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This has a long time ago gone way past "request and hope" and is seriously becomming extremely annoying, demanding and pushing...

If you want to become an official language start following the procedure and leave all the personal stuff, insinuations and other stuff out of it and be patient until you have enough users, just like EVERYBODY else who created a translation had to do...

Thank�s Cookie.

I really like when you write in a polished and generous way.

I already mail patchou to ask for an identification ID for Brazilian Portuguese language. I am wait only he send me.

fala brasileirada..nao sei se vcs leram, mas eu to fazendo uma tradu��o do msgplus live, e me falaram que ja tem um pessoal que ira fazer ela...entao eu queria saber quem sao essas pessoas, pra ajudar, se elas quiserem meus arquivos q tao quase prontos...
se alguem usa o live, me manda uma msg pessoal pedindo o arquivo q eu mando...ai pode ate me ajudar

blz ai kra, sera q vai sair tradu��o portugues brasileiro official?