Shoutbox

well, before the days of msn7 there was nothing like signing in offline (without patching) in messenger. the way its implemented now in msn7 requires that u specify "offline" before signing-in, and people who rely on automatic signing-in (like me) will not very happy with this new feature.
i think plus can now without changing the exe (sure i cannot be sure) set "offline" (or a chosen status) as default instead of "online"

maybe this better be suggested to microsoft, actually i will do that too.

just consider.

I don't really see any use of implementing the into any software really, Not every one likes this feature, and if its set to default then it may annoy some people quite a bit, why can't you just use the appear offline feature on Messenger 7.0, like most people do. It won't be implemented sorry; for the mere reason that it has no use here.

I don't see this very useful.

MSN Messenger 7.0 already allows you to sign in as "Offline"....I don't really get the point .

He's not asking Patchou to make a "sign in as Appear Offline" feature, he's asking for there to be an option to sign in as "Appear Offline" when MSN Messenger signs you in automatically. You can set MSN Messenger up so that it signs you in automatically when it is started or when you have an internet connection, what zaidgs wants is to not have it sign in as Online when it signs you in automatically, but to be able to have it sign in as "Appear Offline" (or any other status) when it signs you in automatically. I think it's quite a nice idea but i doubt that Patchou will do it considering he would have to change things in the .exe, which is illegal. So I hope his request at Microsoft gets granted.

Traxor: It could always be implemented as an option (like many things in Plus!), so people who don't like it don't have to use it.

The problem here though is preferences aren't loaded until one is signed in. So this can't be done in plus, it'd have to be a patch/external program.

hmmz i think it just should remember the last status used when you sign-in .. that wouldn't be too difficult (not using the status when last time signing out like dj-m plugin!)

i think that now in msn7, it will be much easier to set the sign-in offline without changing the exe, because the biggest part of this feature is already implemented in msn7. this feature is meant for msn7.

Jaguar got it right, i set messenger to sign-in automatically and this signs me in as online.

i sent feed-back to microsoft saying:

quote:

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Specifying the status before signing-in to msn messenger is a great feature.
The users who use automatic signing-in will not benefit from this feature because the default signing-in status is 'online', so there should be a way to customize this behaviour, such that a customizable default status is set when the messenger signs-in automatically
Thanks for your patience, hope thats this suggestion will be includeded in the final release of MSN messenger 7.0.

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honestly, i feel like microsoft doesnot pay attention to suggestion as much as patchou does, thats why i sent this suggestion over here too.

MSNProxy worked fine until 7.0 Beta. But now it is broken. I would like this feature also.

today i thought: why not try some vb code .....
it was simple, make a new project, just add to references "messenger api type library", and include this vbcode:

code:

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Private Sub Form_Load()
Dim x As New Messenger

    x.MyStatus = MISTATUS_INVISIBLE
   
    DoEvents: DoEvents: DoEvents: DoEvents
   
    Unload Me
   
End Sub

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simple and effective, REALLY effective.
if i run this program before the automatic (actually automatic or not) signing-in OR during it, i sign-in as offline.
to further test the legality and reasonability of this code, i uninstalled msn 7.0, and then installed msn 6.2: it DID NOT work out, which means that the code ACTUALLY WORK.
in other words:
this api call now works! well, only for msn7: which is what this topic is all about.
Patchou please try it out, i am pretty sure this feature can be implemented with few lines of code, and without the need for changing the exe, or anything illegal.
Patchou?

[ Note: the label of the pull down menu where u chose your status, will stay "Online", however, when u sign-in, u'll be signed in as "offline" ]

EDIT: can anyone help me make a temorary fix for this problem:
the idea is simple: when begining of signing-in event happens, the above code is run. how can i recieve such an event?

anybody else sees what i see ?!?!
or am i missing something ?!