Note: I have hesitated to write this reply here. Because if CookieRevised couldn't understand very well from my previous posts what I'm talking about, how will he understand now? Yet, I have written my reply. But I still wonder why he writes such replies to my posts.
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Originally posted by CookieRevised
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Originally posted by ahmetgns
And another suggestion which is again unrelated to the topic
Then why do you post about it in this thread. Stop doing that!
You suggestion here is about translating, this should go in the Translation forums...
Sorry very much...really. Since you are so annoyed, I promise, you won't see offtopic things in my posts any longer. Tolerate one more time for this thread.
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Originally posted by CookieRevised
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Originally posted by ahmetgns
But it says 'Instead of Away'
'instead of away' means showing something instead of the word "away", it doesn't mean instead of the status Away.
I think, it does mean instead of the
status Away. I can't understand again how you could understand like that? (How many WLM user knows there are two different Away statuses?)
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When a user has the status Away, the word "away" will never be replaced with the word "idle" since their status is Away, not Idle.
Hence, the 'when appropiate' means that not all the words "away" you'll see should actually be "idle", some must stay "away".
These are known by me and I think, most of the users. So don't get angry, but you again gave unnecessary information. Please assume that everyone on this forum knows options very well. If they say something wrong, then give those informations only to them.
Now consider someone who is using Messenger Plus! Live first time and doesn't know there are two Away statuses of WLM. When he sees that option, what would he think? 'When appropriate', hmmmmmm, what is this appropriate condition for this option? So this is not like the option "Auto-accept Requests" for instance. Because that option is obvious. Because all users are familiar with the requests and
Accept and
Decline options. So when users see Auto-accept option of MsgPlus!, they can easily understand what it is talking about and marks it or not. But what is this option and what does it bring us? I think, many people enable it without knowing what that appropriate case is for that feature to work. So my suggestion is not that bad at all. Because a clever user like me and you
can easily understand what that option will do if it is checked, if it says "Show contacts as Idle instead of Away when they're inactive". Because as I said before, a clever user can understand it is talking about the Away status which is activated with the WLM's option marked. Because if it was not the case, the option should be, "Show contacts as Idle instead of Away". Note that, I have removed 'when they're inactive' part. Or it may say "Show contacts as Idle when they're inactive". So these are very different things.
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Originally posted by CookieRevised
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Originally posted by ahmetgns
Also if it was like you told, Plus! option would say 'Override Away status of my contacts as Idle'.
no it wouldn't.
'Override Away status of my contacts as Idle' is totally something different. This means all away statusses will be overriden with the word "idle". This is completely wrong because of the reasons given above.
I know they are completely different but I wrote it intentionally. But MenthiX or Apatik said that when contact is Away, it also meant that he is inactive. So MenthiX or Apatik is not sure, if such a change will be very useful or not. But on my reply to MenthiX or Apatik, I wrote those sentences above .
My suggestion is clear:
Show contacts as Idle
instead of Away when they're inactive
A clever user can easily get the point here. If it is not only saying,
Show contacts as Idle when they're inactive but adds the part
instead of Away there, people will think, "So if I uncheck this option, it will show inactive users as Away as ever, but if I check this option, it will show them as Idle." But here something may confuse minds. That is, you may say "But WLM doesn't show inactive users as Away, it shows only when contacts want to appear as Away when they're idling." Yes, but a clever user can get this point from the option. I can't write any longer about this subject. I can't express myself very well. I was going to try to clarify it much more but I think I have reached my limits. Cookie, I hope you can understand now with this much clearness.
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I have just noticed that it is nothing but Messenger Plus! Live's new feature (Show contacts as Idle instead of Away....). agh how silly I'm. Right, it has been started showing it like that when I installed Messenger Plus! Live 6 months ago. And from that time until now, this had remained (MenthiX, is this usage correct) in my mind as a question mark. Also until the time I attempt to translate Plus!, I was not aware of the most features of Plus!. Thus, it is nothing about Beta or screensaver etc. .
I misremembered who posted this post. And I didn't use quote buttons directly, I copied what