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[Help] Transperancy in CList and ChatWnd.. by SmokingCookie on 03-01-2008 at 02:48 PM

Hi,

I'm currently working on my first working skin ( :P )..
However, I have a problem.
I'd like to get some things transperant in the contact list and the chat window..

Screenshots of my desires (A) :
[Image: screenie1kr9.th.jpg]

[Image: screenie2rx2.th.jpg]

Can anyone please help me out?
Tnx in advance.

PS!!

I've seen it in some skins before..


RE: [Help] Transperancy in CList and ChatWnd.. by blessedguy on 03-01-2008 at 03:47 PM

There are LOTS OF GUIDES that show you how to do that...You just 've gotta mix some argb's with alphablended pics...Search in the forum!

p.s.:You cannot make a skin on a patched messenger, ok? Or the other ppl may have problems with that


RE: RE: [Help] Transperancy in CList and ChatWnd.. by SmokingCookie on 03-01-2008 at 04:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by blessedguy

...You just 've gotta mix some argb's with alphablended pics...


Right ^o)...
RE: [Help] Transperancy in CList and ChatWnd.. by blessedguy on 03-01-2008 at 04:07 PM

quote:
Originally posted by SmokingCookie
quote:
Originally posted by blessedguy

...You just 've gotta mix some argb's with alphablended pics...


Right ^o)...
Let me explain better...you need to find where do you want to make your changes first (some places are easier, others are harder)
in the places where there are just pics, you need to make an alphablended pic, wich can be done with Photoshop, Paint.NET, or GIMP (the last two are free), that can be something like Send color to alpha...

In places where there are only definitions and styles, you need to find the element you want, and add background and foreground tags, like background=argb(0,0,0,0)

ARGB means; Alpha, red, green blue, wich the first 0 means completely invisible, and 255 means opaque.

RE: RE: [Help] Transperancy in CList and ChatWnd.. by SmokingCookie on 03-01-2008 at 05:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by blessedguy
quote:
Originally posted by SmokingCookie
quote:
Originally posted by blessedguy

...You just 've gotta mix some argb's with alphablended pics...


Right ^o)...
Let me explain better...you need to find where do you want to make your changes first (some places are easier, others are harder)
in the places where there are just pics, you need to make an alphablended pic, wich can be done with Photoshop, Paint.NET, or GIMP (the last two are free), that can be something like Send color to alpha...

In places where there are only definitions and styles, you need to find the element you want, and add background and foreground tags, like background=argb(0,0,0,0)

ARGB means; Alpha, red, green blue, wich the first 0 means completely invisible, and 255 means opaque.


That was an answer I was looking for, thanx :D ..

So you mean I have to take a look in the window Defs. and styles?
RE: [Help] Transperancy in CList and ChatWnd.. by blessedguy on 03-01-2008 at 06:08 PM

Exactly that!! If you go to Willz skinning guide (it has it's own thread) and download page 4, you'll see what is each Def and Style for + the function of each image


RE: [Help] Transperancy in CList and ChatWnd.. by SmokingCookie on 03-02-2008 at 09:40 AM

The Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Resource Bible: 250 pages?? :O !!!

Thanx for the advice, btw ;) :D

EDIT:: The headers are done (using some image-based trick), but the contacts area, the message area and the typing area not. I've tried to replace the resources (1654,668,20199), but without success..
The Willz' documentation says something about Metadata and items and UMMargins..
Can anybody please explain what these things mean?


RE: [Help] Transperancy in CList and ChatWnd.. by Nagamasa on 03-02-2008 at 06:35 PM

quote:
Originally posted by SmokingCookie
The Willz' documentation says something about Metadata and items and UMMargins..
I believe that is explained in one of the other parts :P

Um, well that's irrelevant to making the contact list transparent :P

Yeah, see How do I make a picture go across the whole contact list?! for the Contact list...the other stuff...I will add as I finish my homework :P
RE: RE: [Help] Transperancy in CList and ChatWnd.. by SmokingCookie on 03-02-2008 at 06:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Nagamasa
quote:
Originally posted by SmokingCookie
The Willz' documentation says something about Metadata and items and UMMargins..
I believe that is explained in one of the other parts :P

Um, well that's irrelevant to making the contact list transparent :P

Yeah, see [tid=80184] for the Contact list...the other stuff...I will add as I finish my homework :P

Homework? So you're at school too? :P

(Sorry for the offtopic guys ;) )

Ontopic: these style and definition files are very hard to read (well, to me, at least).. Is there a way to make them easier, or is that up to Patchou?
RE: [Help] Transperancy in CList and ChatWnd.. by blessedguy on 03-02-2008 at 06:43 PM

...they aren't hard to read...you just need to pay attention to what you need...(defs are harder though...)...for example...if you want to change the email container...just look up for the file you want...(Log in window is 947, for example, and it is explained in willz guide too), and search for emailcontainer (by pressing Ctrl+F or something like that...)

Offtopic: Whats the matter with be still studying? Isn't it quite normal study for almost 1/3 of your life?


RE: [Help] Transperancy in CList and ChatWnd.. by Nagamasa on 03-02-2008 at 06:45 PM

quote:
Originally posted by SmokingCookie

Ontopic: these style and definition files are very hard to read (well, to me, at least).. Is there a way to make them easier, or is that up to Patchou?
Well a way that I sometimes use is to use the Consolidated Windows styles and definitions. The style files have language-specific content, i.e., strings. As a result, you can search a certain string (i.e., Advertisement) and modify the NON-CONSOLIDATED file in Windows > Styles. The definitions in the consolidated windows is easier to read as they are indented in order.
RE: [Help] Transperancy in CList and ChatWnd.. by SmokingCookie on 03-02-2008 at 06:49 PM

Ontopic: I know about (non-)consolidated windows..

Offtopic: I'm still at school ;) and I assume I'm the only one in my class to be able to make such skins :P :D

EDIT::

Found it :D

EDIT 2::

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!! Got it workin'!!!

Thanks for the help guys :D.