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Interesting quotes...

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Originally posted by MenthiX
I wouldnt mind if you have to install it, i mean we're talking anti-spyware here.... shit that fucks up your pc, nobody wants that.

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Yes, but we are also talking about Flash player... do you have an idea of how many people would have flash installed if the setup wasn't as automatic as it is thanks to ActiveX? Probably less than 50% (now its something between 90% and 99%).

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Guido: true about the click yes thingie, but there are also sites the abuse security bugs to put spyware on your pc and stuff. Also the click yes thingies can be improved to if you ask me, sometimes it just isn't clear what your installing, and even if you click no some sites make them popping up again and again.... such things should be stopped.

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I was talking about Gator, which is usually straightforward.


"This webpage is trying to install something:
Gator is wonderful for you

This can imply risk to your computer and blah blah
blah you could get infected blah blah.

The authenticity of this download was certified by
[Insert random Verisign division here]

Do you want to install it?"

And people click yes.

As for the security bugs, of course they have to be solved -- but as for the spyware that installs itself there's not many "spyware features" that can be done, at least I can't think of any.

For example, the problem that some sites constantly open those boxes no matter if you choose NO will be possible one way or another while the <meta> refresh tag or very basic JS exists, which will be something like... forever.

interesting... I'm gonna read it!

I don't give a fuck that changing the engine is such a huge problem. Isn't that a 'feature'? And they could easily've done that earlier, but nah, just do it quick and make it look 'user-friendly'. I want them to change that engine. I want CSS and CSS2 support, and W3c valid HTML! Tabbed browsing, a better name (that aint really important ), [F12] <-- everyone who uses Opera knows how good this is. and so on, and so on (in short: everything Opera has )

And It really surprises me that there IS a IE team What the Fuck have these guys been doing the last 2 years except for bug-fixing (and not even all bugs! (lost the link, too lazy to search for it )).

Reading it now!

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Now, about the darn security fixes. These are tough. Tougher than it might seem on the outside. Why? Because Internet Explorer's engine is used in several different OS's. Dozens of different languages. Thousands of different applications. Changing one line of code in the inards of Windows means potentially breaking a large number of applications.

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That is crappy! Then they shouldn't've <-- how the heck do I spell that?? built it that way.. It's their own fault

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Another thing that the commenters generally aren't thinking of is "how to get adoption." I keep pointing out that if we fixed the CSS and PNG issues, you still wouldn't be able to use those for years. Why? Cause consumers (and companies) really don't care about those issues and won't download a new version just cause you fixed one or two issues.

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Well, it would be a step in the right direction! This is a lame excuse!

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Originally posted by PlusFan
[F12] <-- everyone who uses Opera knows how good this is.

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what does F12 in Opera?

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Originally posted by PlusFan
shouldn't've <-- how the heck do I spell that??

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shouldn't have, i think :/

should not've also sounds cool

see the attachment. You press [F12] and you can edit some quick preferences very fast, very easy. You don't like flash ads? disable plugins. When you need them (the plugins) just press f12 and simply select the feature



[F12] ROCKS!

this describes all the great things of [F12]!! Read it !