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Hey, i remember in the pre Windows 'Live' Messenger Plus there was the /clear slash command. It cleared the current conversation window, i was wondering if this feature will ever come back? i miss it greatly. Or is there a script i can get to do it?.

Also, will Messenger Plus ever support any type of conversation encryption? This would be an excellent feature.

Thanks in advance for any information :).
10-02-2008 03:33 PM
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RE: Some missing features?
Short of closing the window and opening it again, no it is not possible...
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10-02-2008 03:41 PM
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RE: Some missing features?
This thread has some information about the /clear command :)
http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=84921
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10-02-2008 03:43 PM
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hmm, thanks. What about the encyption?
10-02-2008 03:58 PM
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Unlikely.... The other use would need to have something to decrypt it so you would not be able to talk to people without MP!L and you're specific key to decode it with... =/
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10-02-2008 04:04 PM
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O.P. RE: Some missing features?
I remember the Pidgin predecessor having some kind of encryption that had some advanced shit to negotiate a key over a network.

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it was called OTR, theres more info here. http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/

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10-02-2008 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by Malekith
I remember the Pidgin predecessor having some kind of encryption that had some advanced shit to negotiate a key over a network.

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it was called OTR, theres more info here. http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/

They are not Plus' servers to be sending stuff over. Plus can only manipulate data that the client sends or receives. If it started manipulating the servers, MS would probably start charging for the bandwidth it uses.
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10-02-2008 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by Malekith
I remember the Pidgin predecessor having some kind of encryption that had some advanced shit to negotiate a key over a network.

EDIT:
it was called OTR, theres more info here. http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/

They are not Plus' servers to be sending stuff over. Plus can only manipulate data that the client sends or receives. If it started manipulating the servers, MS would probably start charging for the bandwidth it uses.

Lol, thats ridiculous and makes no sense. Is MS everyone ISP now? And i'm also pretty sure this doesnt use any external servers, its just client to client.
10-02-2008 05:22 PM
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Is MS everyone ISP now? And i'm also pretty sure this doesnt use any external servers, its just client to client.
As far as i know current versions of Messenger do indeed use a direct connection for conversations in most situations. But when no direct connection van be made due to network issues or firewalls it falls back to going trough Microsoft's servers. So you can't rely on Messenger to make a direct connection every time.

Also, Patchou said multiple times in the past he doesn't want Messenger Plus! to mess on a protocol level. Some type of encryption is still possible, but I don't see a secure tunnel happening.

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Originally posted by Malekith
Is MS everyone ISP now? And i'm also pretty sure this doesnt use any external servers, its just client to client.
As far as i know current versions of Messenger do indeed use a direct connection for conversations in most situations. But when no direct connection van be made due to network issues or firewalls it falls back to going trough Microsoft's servers. So you can't rely on Messenger to make a direct connection every time.

Also, Patchou said multiple times in the past he doesn't want Messenger Plus! to mess on a protocol level. Some type of encryption is still possible, but I don't see a secure tunnel happening.



I think you misunderstood, i was talking about the encryption protocol negotiation being direct connection not the conversations. And your wrong anyway, conversations ALWAYS go through MS's servers.
10-02-2008 05:51 PM
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