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I'm annoyed with these 'social integrations' going into everything, not that I'm anti-social, just some privacy issues amongst other things.
You don't have to use the social integrations, so what's the problem? Like mentioned, there's a compact mode (like it's always been) and a social mode.

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I'm also someone who frequently changes my screen name depending on what I'm doing, also it's easier to read / more noticeable than a PM.
Your personal message is for sharing stuff like what you're doing. In this beta you can also share videos and more.
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You don't have to use the social integrations, so what's the problem? Like mentioned, there's a compact mode (like it's always been) and a social mode.
You can't use the compact mode in full screen..
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Using WLM 2009 maximised (full screen is the wrong term) leaves you with a LOT of blank space though.  If you don't want the social stuff, don't maximise if you don't want the social stuff......and then just make compact as wide as you want it to be when it's restored down
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RE: Essentials Public Beta release
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You can't use the compact mode in full screen..
Why would you want to maximise a list of vertical contacts?

Well, they do now spread horizontally if you expand the width of the window rather than maximise. Just do that if you really want it bigger.
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RE: Essentials Public Beta release
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You can't use the compact mode in full screen..
Why would you want to maximise a list of vertical contacts?
So your attention is focused on Messenger and not any background windows..
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RE: Essentials Public Beta release
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You can't use the compact mode in full screen..
Why would you want to maximise a list of vertical contacts?
So your attention is focused on Messenger and not any background windows..

Do you have ADHD or something?  It's REALLY not very hard to look at the contact list window....and it's not like you sit staring at it :P.

Basically it's just people picking fault where there isn't really any, just the same as happens everytime a new version is released....because despite using one of the quickest changing mediums in the world (technology) some people are insistent on not wanting anything to change and wanting things to always stay how they are....and equating change with things getting worse.

People need to quit their whining :P.  It's the same old song and dance as every single time a new version Messenger's come out for as along as I can remember.  Yes, there are a few GENUINE problems (show me a beta product that doesn't and I'll show you a finished product), but most of what people are moaning about aren't problems, they're just change.

Notice how it's exactly the opposite when Apple bring out something new :P.  Everyone creams over how amazing it is, how it has all these "new features" (NB: These are the same as the "problems" that people report with Microsoft stuff!)....I guess the parity here is that your average Apple user knows what they're talking about and can accept things moving on ;)

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No, I just prefer looking at the window maximized. Telling people to stop moaning isn't going to stop them.

All those newbs that download the new WLM when it's out will hate it, and Live will have to face the fact that it needs major changing.

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Notice how it's exactly the opposite when Apple bring out something new :P.  Everyone creams over how amazing it is, how it has all these "new features" (NB: These are the same as the "problems" that people report with Microsoft stuff!)....I guess the parity here is that your average Apple user knows what they're talking about and can accept things moving on ;)
Apple listen, unlike Microsoft. And they get it right..

Hundreds of people would Que up to but stuff days before if they didn't..

Let's not go off topic into MS v APPLE though..

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All those newbs that download the new WLM when it's out will hate it, and Live will have to face the fact that it needs major changing.

Exactly, so people who are supposed to know better shouldn't be perpetuating the myth that every new release is full of problems and rubbish compared to the last one and that it's essentially just the same product, works in the same basic way (in this instance looks almost identical) and that it just has a few new features
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RE: RE: RE: Essentials Public Beta release
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Originally posted by IReallyDontCare

I'm annoyed with these 'social integrations' going into everything, not that I'm anti-social, just some privacy issues amongst other things.

I'm also someone who frequently changes my screen name depending on what I'm doing, also it's easier to read / more noticeable than a PM.

Don't understand where is the problem, you can choose who to show your name, and also you can change your name.

Still it's not activated but there will be a limited friend option to choose which friends can see what.

The social integration it's kinda normal, it's a IM software = it's a  social software....

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Still it's not activated but there will be a limited friend option to choose which friends can see what.
There was a "profile only friends" limited group, but Microsoft removed it.
There was a privacy setting to not show your last name, but Microsoft removed it.
You were able to set your own name to whatever you like (not forced to first and last name), but Microsoft removed it.
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