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O.P. Do I need any special settings? (Two routers)
I want to know if I need to have any special settings to have two routers hooked up.  (one hooked upto the main internet line, the second hooked up to the first)

I need this because my house has really think adobe walls, and I can't get a signal worth a shit outside, so I wanna put a second wireless router on my porch.

(and because I'm bored, visual aid)

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04-29-2007 01:55 AM
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RE: Do I need any special settings? (Two routers)
probably just set up the outside router to use the DHCP server of the inside router, and you should be in business by my guess.
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04-29-2007 02:55 AM
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RE: Do I need any special settings? (Two routers)
If you just do what Verte said, which is the simple way, it will work for the most part, but it's not the right way to do it.  You will end up with network address translation (NAT) occuring twice, which will make manual port forwarding a nightmare and UPnP port forwarding not work at all.  Many applications won't be affected (e.g. web browsers), but others will.

A better way to do it is using a wireless range extender.  This is a different device although they look a lot like a router, cost about the same, and are made by all the same manufacturers.  The advantage of extenders is that they are fully transparent -- you won't need to connect to a different wireless network outside, it will just work uninterrupted as you move around.

It is also possible to do it your way and avoid the double NAT issues if you use an access point (WAP) instead of a router for the second device.  A WAP is only a wireless bridge and does not route, so it is actually a simpler device than wireless routers (which are a router + WAP).  Once again, all the same manufacturers offer WAPs.  If you do this, moving between the devices won't be seamless and you need to set one up for channel 1 and the other for channel 11 (or higher, if available in your country), to avoid mutual interference.

If you already have a router you want to use, it can be configured to act as a simple WAP.  To do that, disable the router's DHCP server and connect the uplink to one of the LAN ports, instead of the WAN port.  If you need any help with that, feel free to PM me your Messenger address and we will find some time to do that.

Overall, my recommendation would be to buy an extender.
04-29-2007 04:32 AM
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O.P. RE: Do I need any special settings? (Two routers)
I'm going to be doing this with a Fon router (being the one outside).  I just need to put the DD-WRT firmware on it, which I can't do till tuesday (my day off).  If I have any troubles, I'll hit you up then.

As for my MSN, it's "dragon_rage3588@yahoo.com".
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RE: Do I need any special settings? (Two routers)
Great.  I am fairly sure DD-WRT has an extender mode, so that is how you should try to set it up.
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RE: Do I need any special settings? (Two routers)
You should just buy a Access Point, that's a device that just makes the signal wireless.
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O.P. RE: Do I need any special settings? (Two routers)
The router in my house is wireless, but like I said, my walls are so thick, that I can't get a signal outside.
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RE: RE: Do I need any special settings? (Two routers)
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I'm going to be doing this with a Fon router (being the one outside).  I just need to put the DD-WRT firmware on it, which I can't do till tuesday (my day off).  If I have any troubles, I'll hit you up then.

As for my MSN, it's "dragon_rage3588@yahoo.com".

I think that violates the Terms of Services on which you got that FON. I think all of the FON features will be gone, so it will be a waste for giving it to you. I remember reading that you wont be able to flash the firmware for whatever reason, but I don't really know.
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O.P. RE: Do I need any special settings? (Two routers)
I can't seem to get DD-WRT on it.  Every time I try and enable SSH, I get some Invalid Value error.  It's using the original firmware (0.7.1 r2) so I don't see what the problem is.
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