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RE: Fahrenheit 9/11
8-) some of the things people have said here are so so irrational...

Yes, Bush is a crap president, and has done a lot of stupid stuff, but that doesn't mean the film is right.  A few of the points dane listed are true, but we already knew those anyway.  The rest of them just scream "if you don't like bush let's make some fairytales up about him".

Firstly, 9/11.  Neither Bush, nor the government organised 9/11.  Why would they?  It hasn't earned them votes, but broken public trust because they didn't respond to a threat they were well aware of.  Generating revenue for the emergency services?  The emergency services don't generate money, they cost money :-/ government money that would otherwise be spent on things that would win votes.

Next, the theory Bin Ladens own 7% of the economy.  Firstly, we're not talking about Osama.  Many of his family have very openly disowned what he does, so I see no reason why they shouldn't be big investors.  Secondly, being a major investor does not mean they own 7% of the economy.  Not only do they not own AOL Time Warner or the Carlyle Group, but their investments cannot just be removed... it is nobody's responsibility to "keep them happy".  Once money goes into the company, it's theirs.  If anything, if it's even true, the Bin Ladens are helping keep the economy going.  However, you can't connect 9/11 to the prosperity of big companies, or of the bin ladens.  The event destroyed the offices of many companies that will have been part of the Carlyle Group and AOL Time Warner.  Those who weren't still suffered economic regression, as people became unwilling to invest in an economy that may be hit by another attack, and people became unwilling to personally use services that were under threat like the airlines industry.

Oh, and what's wrong with none of the congressmen reading the acts that they pass?  This is a grossly misleading use of the fact.  It is not congressmens' jobs to read long and complex acts.  They will have advisors and legal experts who read it and explain the effects it will have.  It is up to the congressmen to decide its resulting implications and make a decision based on that.  Get it right.

That should be enough for now to explain my reservations about this film.
07-06-2004 11:28 AM
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Fahrenheit 9/11 - by Dane on 07-05-2004 at 09:16 AM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by fluffy_lobster on 07-05-2004 at 09:26 AM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by Varish on 07-05-2004 at 09:32 AM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by user27089 on 07-05-2004 at 09:39 AM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by ~INVASION~ on 07-05-2004 at 09:48 AM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by Dane on 07-05-2004 at 09:52 AM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by fluffy_lobster on 07-05-2004 at 10:38 AM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by ~INVASION~ on 07-05-2004 at 10:46 AM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by user27089 on 07-05-2004 at 12:46 PM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by fluffy_lobster on 07-05-2004 at 02:17 PM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by Dane on 07-05-2004 at 02:22 PM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by KeyStorm on 07-05-2004 at 02:36 PM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by user27089 on 07-05-2004 at 02:51 PM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by tomfletcherman on 07-05-2004 at 05:21 PM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by Fraisie on 07-05-2004 at 05:48 PM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by Dane on 07-05-2004 at 07:38 PM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by KeyStorm on 07-05-2004 at 08:38 PM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by Varish on 07-05-2004 at 08:40 PM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by KeyStorm on 07-05-2004 at 08:44 PM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by Dane on 07-06-2004 at 01:45 AM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by ipab on 07-06-2004 at 01:52 AM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by Dane on 07-06-2004 at 01:55 AM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by WDZ on 07-06-2004 at 02:08 AM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by Dane on 07-06-2004 at 02:12 AM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by Garndell on 07-06-2004 at 03:06 AM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by azn angel on 07-06-2004 at 03:26 AM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by Dane on 07-06-2004 at 03:29 AM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by azn angel on 07-06-2004 at 03:40 AM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by Dane on 07-06-2004 at 03:41 AM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by Grue on 07-06-2004 at 04:41 AM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by Dane on 07-06-2004 at 05:04 AM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by eckocomplex on 07-06-2004 at 06:22 AM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by Garndell on 07-06-2004 at 07:12 AM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by surfichris on 07-06-2004 at 07:15 AM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by Garndell on 07-06-2004 at 07:44 AM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by fluffy_lobster on 07-06-2004 at 11:28 AM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by Dane on 07-06-2004 at 06:29 PM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by CookieRevised on 07-06-2004 at 08:58 PM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by Dane on 07-06-2004 at 09:49 PM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by surfichris on 07-07-2004 at 02:05 AM
RE: Fahrenheit 9/11 - by Patchou on 07-07-2004 at 02:05 AM


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