Well I've left it with third dimension computers (some local computer repair one man company) to see what he can do with it, i'll probably buy my nice new system from him too saves me the hassle of installing the hardware when i have all my GCSE's to revise for, thanks for the help you guys (even though it failed to work) but at least i know i can get an answer sharpish here
I consider this thread to be closed and dead.
Thanks
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