What happened to the Messenger Plus! forums on msghelp.net?
Shoutbox » MsgHelp Archive » Skype & Technology » Tech Talk » Response to the nationwide internet filter in Australia,

Pages: (3): « First [ 1 ] 2 3 » Last »
Response to the nationwide internet filter in Australia,
Author: Message:
Jarrod
Veteran Member
*****

Avatar
woot simpson

Posts: 1304
Reputation: 20
– / Male / Flag
Joined: Sep 2006
O.P. Response to the nationwide internet filter in Australia,
Yesterday I got a letter from my local member of parliament asking my thoughts on the scheme and whether or not I support it,
I was looking for things to mention in my response and wanted other opinions,
 

[Image: 5344.png]
[Image: sig.png]

A.k.a. The Glad Falconer














09-23-2009 12:49 AM
Profile E-Mail PM Find Quote Report
toddy
Veteran Member
*****

Avatar
kcus uoy

Posts: 2573
Reputation: 49
– / Male / Flag
Joined: Jun 2004
RE: Response to the nationwide internet filter in Australia,
maybe if you gave some details on what the filter will filter out, etc. then you may get some responses
09-23-2009 01:33 AM
Profile PM Find Quote Report
Jarrod
Veteran Member
*****

Avatar
woot simpson

Posts: 1304
Reputation: 20
– / Male / Flag
Joined: Sep 2006
O.P. RE: Response to the nationwide internet filter in Australia,
I think the filter is targeted at porn.
it's not meant to be about what will filtered, but more about the downsides of the implementation, eg will the filter be so poorly implemented that anyone can just bypass it so easily that it would not be worth the cost.

would such a filter impede speed to a noticeable degree?

would any teenager who is wanting to bypass the filter just be able use something like yourfreedom to completely ignore it?

likelihoods that the filter could be misused to obscure freedom of information/free speech.

those are the few points that come to mind, I want to hear peoples thoughts on the points above and any other thoughts people have on the scheme

[Image: 5344.png]
[Image: sig.png]

A.k.a. The Glad Falconer














09-23-2009 02:07 AM
Profile E-Mail PM Find Quote Report
Menthix
forum admin
*******

Avatar

Posts: 5537
Reputation: 102
40 / Male / Flag
Joined: Mar 2002
RE: Response to the nationwide internet filter in Australia,
A filter is completely missing the point.

Regular porn is not illegal, so there is absolutely no point in blocking it. Which leaves childporn and other illegal forms (bestiality in certain countries).

Childporn is illegal in the entire world, instead of blocking it they should be prosecuting the people hosting/creating it. Simply blocking such sites is like covering your eyes and pretending nothing bad is happening.

Which leaves over the types of things which are illegal in Australia, but are not illegal in the country where the site is hosted. Should those things be filtered? Personally I'm completely against any type of censorship, so I'll say no to any filter. China has been trying to censor the internet for years, but never really succeeded. Sure, people who don't care too much are being censored, but everyone who wants to go around any kind of block is succeeding.

I'd like to hear the reasoning of those who support the filter though, and what exactly do they want to filter? And who will be responsible for deciding what to filter? It's hard to make good statements against it if we don't know the exact plans, except for "any kind of censorship is bad".
Finish the problem
Menthix.net | Contact Me
09-23-2009 10:04 AM
Profile E-Mail PM Web Find Quote Report
Th3rmal
Veteran Member
*****

Peek-a-boo! I see you!!

Posts: 1226
Reputation: 26
32 / Male / Flag
Joined: Aug 2005
RE: Response to the nationwide internet filter in Australia,
Also the fact that some legitimate sights that dont have porn on them get blocked by accident, adn the fact that implementing a filter will slow down the net making it even worse than it is now. PC User did a full review on the whole idea of the filter a while back and they made some good points.
You have the intellect comparable to that of a rock. Be proud.
09-23-2009 10:37 AM
Profile E-Mail PM Web Find Quote Report
Jarrod
Veteran Member
*****

Avatar
woot simpson

Posts: 1304
Reputation: 20
– / Male / Flag
Joined: Sep 2006
O.P. RE: Response to the nationwide internet filter in Australia,
what issue i might go read that issue again?
@Menthix the filter is aimed at protecting minors( < 18 ) from viewing adult content,
can you imagine a 16 yr old not being able to watch porn at night, suicides would go through the roof:P

This post was edited on 09-23-2009 at 11:06 AM by Jarrod.

[Image: 5344.png]
[Image: sig.png]

A.k.a. The Glad Falconer














09-23-2009 10:58 AM
Profile E-Mail PM Find Quote Report
Menthix
forum admin
*******

Avatar

Posts: 5537
Reputation: 102
40 / Male / Flag
Joined: Mar 2002
RE: Response to the nationwide internet filter in Australia,
quote:
Originally posted by Jarrod
@Menthix the filter is aimed at protecting minors( < 18 ) from viewing adult content
And how will adults be allowed to view adult content?
Finish the problem
Menthix.net | Contact Me
09-23-2009 11:35 AM
Profile E-Mail PM Web Find Quote Report
Phillip
Senior Member
****

Avatar
c11h15no2

Posts: 548
Reputation: 56
35 / Male / Flag
Joined: Jan 2006
Status: Away
RE: RE: Response to the nationwide internet filter in Australia,
quote:
Originally posted by Menthix
quote:
Originally posted by Jarrod
@Menthix the filter is aimed at protecting minors( < 18 ) from viewing adult content
And how will adults be allowed to view adult content?
I think adult material + a blacklist of sites is blocked to begin with and if you want the adult filter removed you have to ring your isp though you can not get the blacklisted sites unblocked.

I am still not in favour of any kind of filter.
[Image: awd.png]
Drawn into the darkness here with your eyes on the prize at stake.
Faint hearts on an endless path letting go of the ones we break.
09-23-2009 11:45 AM
Profile PM Find Quote Report
vaccination
Veteran Member
*****

Avatar

Posts: 2513
Reputation: 43
33 / Male / –
Joined: Apr 2005
RE: Response to the nationwide internet filter in Australia,
quote:
Originally posted by Th3rmal
sights

You just killed a kitten, I hope you're happy.
[Image: jumbled.png]
09-23-2009 11:49 AM
Profile PM Find Quote Report
Th3rmal
Veteran Member
*****

Peek-a-boo! I see you!!

Posts: 1226
Reputation: 26
32 / Male / Flag
Joined: Aug 2005
RE: Response to the nationwide internet filter in Australia,
quote:
Originally posted by vaccination
quote:
Originally posted by Th3rmal
sights

You just killed a kitten, I hope you're happy.
holy shit i didnt realise that. forum posts + reading about mw2 perks = spelling fail :P
You have the intellect comparable to that of a rock. Be proud.
09-23-2009 12:21 PM
Profile E-Mail PM Web Find Quote Report
Pages: (3): « First [ 1 ] 2 3 » Last »
« Next Oldest Return to Top Next Newest »


Threaded Mode | Linear Mode
View a Printable Version
Send this Thread to a Friend
Subscribe | Add to Favorites
Rate This Thread:

Forum Jump:

Forum Rules:
You cannot post new threads
You cannot post replies
You cannot post attachments
You can edit your posts
HTML is Off
myCode is On
Smilies are On
[img] Code is On