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Well i think i spelt it right it's a controversial thing but something myself I believe in

Wots your opinions?

I'm from the Netherlands, and that's a country that goes very far in legalizing things like this. When correct procedures are followed (thorough talks with patient and family/friends, a different doctor has to give his opinion etc.), it is legal to let a patient die, if his suffering seems unendable (no hopes for reasonable medical recovery).

I totally support this. Someone mentioned in the thread about suicide that life was a gift, and not a given right. I didn't want to go in discussion about that here, but I disagree with that comment. I see my life as a right: it is my choice to do with it what I want to, even if that includes death. The way it was said in the other thread made me think of obligations: I gave it to you and now you're stuck with it, no matter what. I don't understand that; don't want to accept it.

From my point of view, I think nobody should commit suicide. I'm a teenager myself, and have never considered it. I like my life, though it isn't very spectacular. But does that mean that it's not worth it? Life can be what you make of it. And when you've made the best of it, and somehow ended up with an untreatable disease, I think it's more than acceptable if you want to end it in a way you seem fit. I haven't thought about euthanasia for myself very thoroughly, but I can imagine that, if my life should end up like a worst-case-scenario, I'd consider euthanasia.

I don't say that this is now the way we should all end, and of course, strict rules have to apply for things like this. But I'm in favour of the possibility.

As long as it’s official and very carefully decided and treat with respect…I'm for it…

Well they make divorce difficult cos that can be a big decision, so why not euthanasia? If someone wants it bad enough they should have to go through some sort of process. The government in britain should allow it.

ewll they're old

sometimes suffer a lot

let them stop suffering

I don't see the point in suffering to death when nothing can be done against it. Even if there'd be a solution. If one has to suffer so much pain to want to better die... I mean... It's completely reasonable.
I'm for it.

I'm not sure, but the decision most likely must be one-sided.
It is not taken by the patient himself/herself.

The family doesn't know exactly whether the patient wants to die ("stop suffering") or not.

I think euthanasia should not be done unless the patient's family cannot afford the treatment fee, nobody could help the patient, and nobody cares about him/her.

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Originally posted by thekid
I think euthanasia should not be done unless the patient's family cannot afford the treatment fee

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When it comes to living, money should never EVER be an issue, everyone should have the right to live. If a family can't afford to keep someone alive, and no-one can pay for it, that is disgraceful. It just shows what a materialistic world we have come to live in.

However, this just goes back to a question of suicide, everyone has the right to live, and the right to die.

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Originally posted by Tochjo
When correct procedures are followed (thorough talks with patient and family/friends, a different doctor has to give his opinion etc.), it is legal to let a patient die, if his suffering seems unendable (no hopes for reasonable medical recovery).

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I think it's OK as long as some procedures like those are followed. Someone might want to die when they're going through a bad time in their life, but if they stay alive, things will get better.

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Originally posted by thekid
I'm not sure, but the decision most likely must be one-sided.
It is not taken by the patient himself/herself.

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What? In most cases the decision MUST be taken by the patient himself/herself... If he/she doesn't agree then the formalities aren't done, and authansia can't be performed...

There are exceptions on this very important rule; When the patient can't decide for himself anymore. In this case, there must be a written, official approval of the closed family, house-doctor, several other doctors, and sometimes a judge. This process takes roughly 3 months!

Euthanasia is a form of suicide, not murder!!! If the decision is taken like you said, the doctor who "unplugs the plug" is sentenced for murder.

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Originally posted by thekid
The family doesn't know exactly whether the patient wants to die ("stop suffering") or not.

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In most cases, they do!

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Originally posted by thekid
I think euthanasia should not be done unless the patient's family cannot afford the treatment fee, nobody could help the patient, and nobody cares about him/her.

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That's just the kind of think hospitals will NOT do. Some taxes we (your parents) pay are for this kind of situations. It's called health care...


Rules are different in different countries. But in the countries where euthanasia is legal, the rules are always almost the same...