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CookieRevised: I'm sorry. I think my argument was kinda vague.
I was talking when the patient cannot make his decision.

But, when the patient is still alive and wants to die, that means the patient is depressed. The patient's request is a cry for help.
He actually wants psychological counseling, not death.

You know, when we were still children, and we didn't get what we wanted, we would be angry, said that we didn't want to talk to our parents anymore.
That is a temporal decision. We thought shortly. We didn't know why our parents didn't allow us to have it.
So do the patients. The patients think shortly. They don't think how to "figure" it out (I couldn't find a better word). They want instant.

The patient who asks for euthanasia might feel great pain. But, recently, technology has been improving rapidly. With technology in medication, doctors have found many ways to kill the pain.

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
There are exceptions on this very important rule; When the patient can't decide for himself anymore. In this case, there must be a written, official approval of the closed family, house-doctor, several other doctors, and sometimes a judge. This process takes roughly 3 months!


Pretend that I have commited to do something before I die, and I want to do it really bad. Suddenly, I have an accident and I am in coma. Do my family, the doctors, the judge have the right to end my life?

How if I would be conscious after four or five months, but the one-sided decision has been taken?

In my opinion, coma is only a real deep sleep. Unawakened. It is not death. The patient is still breathing although he needs equipments to help him breathing. His brain is still working although the brain might be severely damaged.

Remember, miracle happens...

quote:
Man wakes from coma after 19 years
By Ben Davey and AP
July 9 2003

A man regained consciousness after 19 years in a coma, greeting his mother who was waiting at his Arkansas bedside.

"He started out with 'Mom' and surprised her and then it was 'Pepsi' and then it was 'milk," Alesha Badgley, Stone County Nursing and Rehabilitation Centre social director, said today.

"And now it's anything he wants to say."

Terry Wallis, 39, had been at the Mountain View centre since a car crash in July 1984.

...

for complete news http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/07/09/1057430247106.html


If the patient is untreatable, he should wait until the time comes.
Everybody should wait...

The patient might not want to put more burden on his family. So he chooses euthanasia.
Back to my first point, he needs help, especially from the family.
I don't want to be rude, but, if the family doesn't want or is unable to support him and the patient choose euthanasia approved by himself, his family, the doctors and judge, then the family is the murder.

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Originally posted by saralk
Everybody has the right to live, and the right to die.

I want to correct this.
Everybody doesn't have the right to live, and the right to die.
Everybody has the right to fight for his/her life.
A fetus has the right to live, because fetus cannot make a decision.

Euthanasia for untreatable patients has been abused. Some people who have mental illness, disability, or old age choose euthanasia as a solution, or even maybe asked to.

Do you want to know a real true confession?
I always wanted to die. But I have found the right way now :).
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Euthanasia Whats your view - by Wabz on 02-19-2004 at 05:51 PM
RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by Tochjo on 02-19-2004 at 06:04 PM
RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by Anubis on 02-19-2004 at 06:04 PM
RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by tomfletcherman on 02-19-2004 at 06:10 PM
RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by BooGhost on 02-19-2004 at 06:16 PM
RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by KeyStorm on 02-19-2004 at 07:11 PM
RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by Weyzza on 02-19-2004 at 07:23 PM
RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by saralk on 02-19-2004 at 07:54 PM
RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by WDZ on 02-19-2004 at 08:21 PM
RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by CookieRevised on 02-20-2004 at 12:56 AM
RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by musicalmidget on 02-20-2004 at 01:04 AM
RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by Chrono on 02-20-2004 at 01:05 AM
RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by Weyzza on 02-20-2004 at 03:59 AM
RE: RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by CookieRevised on 02-20-2004 at 07:51 AM
[no subject] - by Meksilon on 02-23-2004 at 06:20 AM
RE: - by billywoods1 on 02-23-2004 at 07:23 AM
RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by Muss on 02-20-2004 at 05:37 AM
RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by Omar on 02-20-2004 at 04:33 PM
RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by Weyzza on 02-20-2004 at 07:11 PM
RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by Omar on 02-20-2004 at 10:56 PM
RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by CookieRevised on 02-21-2004 at 07:34 AM
RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by Omar on 02-21-2004 at 05:04 PM
RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by CookieRevised on 02-22-2004 at 04:46 PM
RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by billywoods1 on 02-22-2004 at 05:14 PM
RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by Ginger on 02-22-2004 at 06:40 PM
RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by Meksilon on 02-23-2004 at 08:07 AM
RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by kangie on 02-23-2004 at 02:01 PM
RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by Weyzza on 02-23-2004 at 11:17 PM
RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by ^_^ on 02-24-2004 at 02:13 AM
RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by Tochjo on 02-24-2004 at 07:50 AM
RE: Euthanasia Whats your view - by Wabz on 02-24-2004 at 01:53 PM


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