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O.P. Huh?  Can't get rid of windows messnger?
Hi can anyone help me.

Im running msn messenger 6.1 and whenever I boot up windows xp pro windows messenger starts up in the background and logs in. Theirs no sign of it except for the fact that i get the message that i was signed in at another location and its in the task manager. Ive done everything from dissabling it on startup to blocking it in the policy editor. I even tried going into msconfig and manually get rid of it although theirs no sign of it in msconfigs startup. Can anyone help me here. Im running plus also if that makes any differnce but i don't think it would.
03-22-2004 10:42 PM
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RE: Can't get rid of windows messnger?
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this random site should do it

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O.P. RE: Can't get rid of windows messnger?
OK well here's another problem that would cause a problem i have service pack 1 installed yet windows messenger does not apear in the add remove options and ive tried a few other options and they just won't work. Its almost as if windows doesn't know windows messenger is on my machine. The traces of it are so minimal. Like I said the only way i know its running is through the 8mb or ram its sucking up when i look at it in my task manager or also when i first log in i get the message you have been signed in at another location. It gets irritating when im running msn messenger 6.1 and don't want windows messenger bothering me. So yes I did look on google and found no help I was wondering if someone had ran into similar problems.
03-22-2004 11:14 PM
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RE: Can't get rid of windows messnger?
Here is the fun hack that allows it to be visible in Add/Remove Windows Components.

Click Start > Run > type C:\Windows\inf\sysoc.inf

What you will probably see is the following.
code:
[Version]
Signature = "$Windows NT$"
DriverVer=07/01/2001,5.1.2600.1106

[Components]
NtComponents=ntoc.dll,NtOcSetupProc,,4
WBEM=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,wbemoc.inf,hide,7
Display=desk.cpl,DisplayOcSetupProc,,7
Fax=fxsocm.dll,FaxOcmSetupProc,fxsocm.inf,,7
NetOC=netoc.dll,NetOcSetupProc,netoc.inf,,7
iis=iis.dll,OcEntry,iis.inf,,7
com=comsetup.dll,OcEntry,comnt5.inf,hide,7
dtc=msdtcstp.dll,OcEntry,dtcnt5.inf,hide,7
IndexSrv_System = setupqry.dll,IndexSrv,setupqry.inf,,7
TerminalServer=TsOc.dll, HydraOc, TsOc.inf,hide,2
msmq=msmqocm.dll,MsmqOcm,msmqocm.inf,,6
ims=imsinsnt.dll,OcEntry,ims.inf,,7
fp_extensions=fp40ext.dll,FrontPage4Extensions,fp40ext.inf,,7   
AutoUpdate=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,au.inf,hide,7
msmsgs=msgrocm.dll,OcEntry,msmsgs.inf,,7
WMAccess=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,wmaccess.inf,,7
RootAutoUpdate=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,rootau.inf,,7
IEAccess=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,ieaccess.inf,,7
OEAccess=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,oeaccess.inf,,7
WMPOCM=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,wmpocm.inf,,7


Games=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,games.inf,,7
AccessUtil=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,accessor.inf,,7
CommApps=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,communic.inf,HIDE,7
MultiM=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,multimed.inf,HIDE,7
AccessOpt=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,optional.inf,HIDE,7
Pinball=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,pinball.inf,HIDE,7
MSWordPad=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,wordpad.inf,HIDE,7
ZoneGames=zoneoc.dll,ZoneSetupProc,igames.inf,,7



TabletPC=tabletoc.dll,TabletSetupProc,Tabletpc.inf,HIDE,7


[Global]
WindowTitle=%WindowTitle%
WindowTitle.StandAlone="*"

Look for msmsgs=msgrocm.dll,OcEntry,msmsgs.inf,hide,7

now remove the word hide so it looks like this
msmsgs=msgrocm.dll,OcEntry,msmsgs.inf,,7

then you will be able to uninstall it.
Now if you do this you will have to apply a Registry entry that will cause Outlook Express to load very slowly.
code:
[Start] [Run] [Regedit]
Registry Key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Outlook Express
Modify/Create the Value Name according to the Value Data listed below.
Data Type: REG_DWORD [Dword Value] // Value Name: Hide Messenger
Value Data: [2 = Messenger Will Not Load]
Exit Registry and Reboot

Also if you do this, it will cause Applications that NEED the Windows Messenger 4.7 Api to operate correctly.

Matty

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03-22-2004 11:36 PM
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O.P. RE: Can't get rid of windows messnger?
Well I tried that option matty its still not in the add remove. Like I said I really don't understand whats up with it, im thinking i might have to compleatly reinstall windows or something. oh well
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RE: Can't get rid of windows messnger?
Not Add/Remove Programs
Add/Remove Windows Components

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Or you can use this as CookieRevised Posted while ago.
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/MessengerDisable.zip

.gif File Attachment: WinMess.gif (13.44 KB)
This file has been downloaded 316 time(s).

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03-23-2004 12:04 AM
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O.P. RE: Can't get rid of windows messnger?
Oh thanks matty I had only seen the remove windows messenger from start menue I hadn't realised that just under that their was the actual program uninstallation. Well i think this should work if not then I give up il just suffer with the annoyance.
03-23-2004 12:43 AM
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RE: Can't get rid of windows messnger?
Removing Windows Messenger will break some functions in MSN Messenger and other addons and plugins...

Please reffer to
http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=26...d=258821#pid258821
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RE: Can't get rid of windows messnger?
[Start][Run]
RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove

[OK]

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RE: Can't get rid of windows messnger?
quote:
Originally posted by spokes25
[Start][Run]
RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove

[OK]
This is not recommended at all. CookieRevised pretty much stated why:
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
Removing Windows Messenger will break some functions in MSN Messenger and other addons and plugins...
It is advised to use the way CookieRevised himself explained in the post he linked to.
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