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O.P. Something to laugh at!
Now this is Funny!
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Messenger Plus Bundling Lop.com

Many of you may have heard of a program called Patchou's "Messenger Plus". I used it myself once, before I discovered Trillian. Similar to the many front end programs for Internet Explorer (Avant browser, MyIE2, etc), Messenger Plus adds a user interface to Microsoft's MSN Messenger that contains extra features.

Patchou has brought in C2Media as a sponsor and is now bundling their lop.com software into Messenger Plus. For those of you who have never heard of it, lop.com software is classified as a trojan by antivirus vendors and as a browser hijacker by antispyware vendors. You can find plenty of information about it by doing a Google search for lop.com. Just be warned - some of the language used by lop victims will melt your monitor.

No single parasite has caused as many support threads at our message boards as lop.com (although Xupiter comes close). Ad-aware, Spybot, and all other spyware removal programs target several older variants of lop.com. It now comes in a version that is nearly impossible to detect automatically. It uses randomly named files, randomly generated CLSID identifiers, and uses activex installation methods that let them update all of their installers at once.

Before this change, the number of lop.com complaints actually had gone down because it was so easy to remove and could even be blocked beforehand. Since C2Media introduced these new versions that mutate randomly, the number of infections has become larger than ever. The only sure way to be rid of it is to ask for help at the SWI support forums.

Patchou, the developer of Messenger Plus, has issued a statement regarding the complaints he's been receiving due to his new "sponsor". To all of the people who are saying that they won't use his program because of lop.com, he has this to say, "I don't want to be rude but if you boycot version 2.10.36, you're an idiot."

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Rude? Well gee, what could possibly be "rude" about being called an "idiot" for refusing to install software that sets off trojan alarms in antivirus programs?
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Whether it makes you an idiot or not, I strongly recommend that everyone stay as far away from Patchou's Messenger Plus as possible. If you have installed it already and now have lop.com's software all over your system, uninstalling Messenger Plus supposedly will also remove lop.
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* Vantage wonders if patchou really called them idiots

This post was edited on 10-10-2004 at 12:57 AM by Vantage.
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10-10-2004 12:50 AM
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* Vantage wonders if patchou really called them idiots
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:lol: What a bunch of BS
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:lol: What a bunch of BS
TBH, what part of it is bullshit? :p

I don't like articles like this either, but I don't see any incorrect facts, just dodgy opinions. :dodgy:
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RE: Something to laugh at!
poor patchou. people are too god damn stupid to read the warning statements. maybe he should put under i do not accept (tick this if you do not wish to install the sponsor)
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10-10-2004 02:33 AM
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actualy no. I think it has taugh many people a lesson [including me] . now when i install software i make sure. and i wont ever be caught off guard like that again.
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RE: Something to laugh at!
lol, ya. Before plus!, I didn't bother skimming the agreement....the Plus! installer does very closely resemble a standard afreement found in most programs for terms of usage :P It's prety tricky, imho (not to put down  Plus! or Patchou).
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TBH, what part of it is bullshit?

I don't like articles like this either, but I don't see any incorrect facts, just dodgy opinions. 

The part that is bullshit is the fact that they make it sound like it will kill and ruin your computer with the worst spyware out there. There is way worse than lop.com and I don't even think Plus! has lop does it?

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RE: Something to laugh at!
The BS part is that it's a quote that'scompletely our of context. First, I aplogize again for the poor chocie of word, however, Inever treated my users as idiots because they didn't want to install my sponsor (how anybody could be that rude?). It was just a reaction to people sayign that they boycoted the new version because their was an optional in it, just for the idea that I was bundling something that could be installed. I'm sure the original post must still be somewhere.

As a side note, "idiot" is also a word in french and I learnt, at my own depends, that its meaning in english is much more"aggressive"... so, sorry for being french ;).

And toconclude, once again, the agreement WILL be modified in version 3.25 that will be released very soon. Version 3.21 (tomorrow) will be distributed with several test versions of new agreements window to prepare for it. My goal has never been to trick anyone, it it was, there would be one check box in bold saying "click here, it's fun!" and I would stop spending so much time replying to these posts :p.
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So Patchou does this C2Media host you for free? Is that why you need the extra sponser program in the install?

Why exactly do you need to put it into the setup?
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