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[request] better /ping
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RE: [request] better /ping
I realize this topic is old, but here's my findings about the flaws with the Ping function...

A friend and I were playing around with the "/ping" function, but he has the "Enable commands (messages beging with a '/')" disabled, so here was our conversation:

quote:
(1:01 AM) Me:     
*try typing "Ping? [msgplus]"
(1:01 AM) Me:     
*I wonder if that would work
(1:01 AM) Friend:     
*Ping? [request]
(1:01 AM) Me:     
*   Pong! [resps]
(1:01 AM) Friend:     
*   Pong! [resps]
(1:01 AM) Friend:     
*there
(1:01 AM) Friend:     
*lolz
(1:01 AM) Friend:     
*Ping? [request]
(1:01 AM) Me:     
*   Pong! [resps]
(1:01 AM) Friend:     
*   Pong! [resps]
(1:01 AM) Friend:     
*i pongmyself then it pongs you? XD
(1:01 AM) Friend:     
*wtf?
(1:01 AM) Friend:     
*lol
(1:02 AM) Friend:     
*my ISP is so weird
(1:02 AM) Me:     
*The way it works, is that when you type "/ping", MsgPlus actually sends "Ping? [msgplus]" as a regular message.
(1:02 AM) Me:     
*I think it has to do with the alternative way of doing it, that it pongs yourself.
(1:03 AM) Me:     
*So if someone doesn't have MsgPlus, then all they see is "Ping? [msgplus]", but if they have it their MsgPlus filters the message, and displays something else.
(1:03 AM) Friend:     
*hah
(1:04 AM) Me:     
*I wonder what the pong looks like lol
(1:04 AM) Friend:     
*pong? [msgplus]
(1:04 AM) Friend:     
*XD
(1:04 AM) Me:     
*Pong! [resps]
(1:04 AM) Me:     
*Ping? [request]
(1:04 AM) Friend:     
*   Pong! [02sec]
(1:04 AM) Friend:     
*Ping? [msgpluss]
(1:04 AM) Friend:     
*Ping? [request]
(1:04 AM) Me:     
*   Pong! [resps]
(1:04 AM) Friend:     
*   Pong! [resps]
(1:04 AM) Friend:     
*there
(1:04 AM) Me:     
*Pong! [02sec]
(1:05 AM) Me:     
*I think I understand it now, and why it displays to "pong".
(1:07 AM) Me:     
*Say I send "Ping? [msgplus]", MsgPlus filters it and displays "Ping? [request]" then it sends a the same message to me "Ping? [msgplus]". Me while my MsgPlus is timing how long it takes to get the response...
(1:10 AM) Me:     
*However, mine doesn't start timeing it unless I use "/ping", because it's part of the translation process. So my MsgPlus doesn't actually realize I sent a ping request. Your MsgPlus however thinks I did, and it bounces the message back. Now my MsgPlus thinks you are send a ping request, because you sent me "Ping? [msgplus]", and it bounces it back. But niether of our MsgPlus actually registers the timing function, because each time it thinks the the other guy is sending the request.
(1:10 AM) Me:     
*Make sense? lol

Technically, using "Ping? [msgplus]" instead of "/ping" should result in an infinate loop, and crash both of our WLM. However I guess Patchou realized this, and some how limited it. I think the function that limits this, can be adopted to also detect who sent the "Ping? [msgplus]" first, and time it respectively so "Pong! [resps]" doesn't get outputed, and instead the correct "Pong! [x amount of sec]" is used.

Edit:
I wonder if it would be possible for MsgPlus to use a different MSN Messenger Protocol command to send the ping request, instead of MSG command.

This post was edited on 07-23-2009 at 08:38 AM by frosty1433.
07-23-2009 08:21 AM
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Messages In This Thread
[request] better /ping - by rompom7 on 11-15-2005 at 08:04 AM
RE: [request] better /ping - by user27089 on 11-15-2005 at 08:12 AM
RE: [request] better /ping - by Mike on 11-17-2005 at 01:41 PM
RE: [request] better /ping - by Purity on 11-17-2005 at 01:58 PM
RE: [request] better /ping - by matty on 11-17-2005 at 03:35 PM
RE: [request] better /ping - by extasy@sbate.com on 11-17-2005 at 07:04 PM
RE: [request] better /ping - by matty on 11-17-2005 at 07:14 PM
RE: [request] better /ping - by frosty1433 on 07-23-2009 at 08:21 AM
RE: [request] better /ping - by matty on 07-23-2009 at 03:16 PM
RE: [request] better /ping - by frosty1433 on 07-23-2009 at 10:54 PM
RE: [request] better /ping - by Spunky on 07-23-2009 at 11:55 PM
RE: [request] better /ping - by frosty1433 on 07-24-2009 at 10:03 AM


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