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I was wondering, I get really bitchy when I have to open up a window to type in a Msg+ command.  More so cos I'm finding that when I really need to do a Msg+ command, the person I am forced to open up a window with - I really dont want to talk to anyways.

So I was wondering if it was possible if someone was able to [for example] create a input box that would go near the toolbar with the other icons (Inbox -  Windows Live Today - Colour Scheme - Msg + Live - Scripts).

This would then allow for the like of "/brb - leave me alone I'm not here"

Any ideas?

But most of the commands' aim is easing operations about contacts and to be able to write a command while chatting with someone help Plus! users. So isn't it useless to have a seperate window whose sole aim is to type a command. For example if you want to change your status and if currently don't have any open chat window, you can easily change it through WLM's systray icon.

I suggest adding some /commands (like /brb) to the search box under the main toolbar. Like attached screenshot:

vikkie, but the problem on doing this is that the box you showed is from WLM and not for Plus!.
Another thing: If you want to write "/brb" on the contact list, I think is easyer to select the status (clicking) than writing...

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Originally posted by E521
I was wondering, I get really bitchy when I have to open up a window to type in a Msg+ command.  More so cos I'm finding that when I really need to do a Msg+ command, the person I am forced to open up a window with - I really dont want to talk to anyways.

So I was wondering if it was possible if someone was able to [for example] create a input box that would go near the toolbar with the other icons (Inbox -  Windows Live Today - Colour Scheme - Msg + Live - Scripts).

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This is actually a very (extremely) old suggestion...

I think there are more people who would like something like this to use commands which aren't directly related to conversations.

Although, and for now, you could add a bot(°) to your contactlist. There is a big list of bots and the main advantage of them is that they are always online. So you could easly quickly open a convo with those to enter a command. This is what everybody else does as a 'solution'.

Although it must be said that the use of almost all commands isn't exactly frequent (strange sentence ). What I mean is that there aren't much commands which require a big frequent use. And many functions the commands can do, can also be found in the menus. So I guess this is one of the reasons why such a box wasn't added yet (among other reasons). But it is indeed annoying when you must use a command (which doesn't have a menu entry somewhere) and you have a small contactlist with nobody online to open a conversation with.


(°) eg:
http://www.robotinvaders.com/main/Gallery.aspx
http://www.mensmerk.nl/chatbots.html
etc...

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Originally posted by ahmetgns
But most of the commands' aim is easing operations about contacts and to be able to write a command while chatting with someone help Plus! users.

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The issue is not that commands exist, why they exist or what their use it.

The issue is how to use commands when no contact is online.

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Originally posted by ahmetgns
For example if you want to change your status and if currently don't have any open chat window, you can easily change it through WLM's systray icon.

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Originally posted by MicroWay
Another thing: If you want to write "/brb" on the contact list, I think is easyer to select the status (clicking) than writing...

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Changing the status is only an example. There are a lot more commands...

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Originally posted by MicroWay
vikkie, but the problem on doing this is that the box you showed is from WLM and not for Plus!.

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Which can be hooked by Plus!.

Using the contactwheel for this is actually not a bad idea in my opinion. Though, on the condition that you could still search contacts with it, and ofcourse also searching on names etc which start or include the character "/".

Or maybe a second box, dedicated to Plus! only, next to the contactwheel...

now that scripts are possible... There is also a way to script something like this. But it would require a dodgy(!!) way of having a window always on top on the contactlist and constantly polling (which is extremely dodgy and a crap method) its position. Together with a (dedicated, so it can be hidden for example) bot, this could ease the requirement to open a temporary convo each time.

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Originally posted by CookieRevised

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Originally posted by MicroWay
vikkie, but the problem on doing this is that the box you showed is from WLM and not for Plus!.

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Which can be hooked by Plus!.

Using the contactwheel for this is actually not a bad idea in my opinion. Though, on the condition that you could still search contacts with it, and ofcourse also searching on names etc which start or include the character "/".

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Sorry, Cookie and vikkie -> didn't thought Plus! could do it...
And sorry, because I "forgot" other comands (I just followed the example given)...
I'm starting to think that enabling de comands on the search bar of WLM contact List is a great idea...

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
Or maybe a second box, dedicated to Plus! only, next to the contactwheel...

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Actualy nice idea too, but comparing ideas, I would like most the first one (using the Search Bar)..

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
The issue is not that commands exist, why they exist or what their use it.

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I know. I think you again replied without understanding my point.

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
The issue is how to use commands when no contact is online.

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by Offline Messaging

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
Changing the status is only an example. There are a lot more commands...

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77 commands total.
   18 built-in sounds commands.
   8 status-related commands.
   15 script commands.
Built-in sounds can only be sent during a conversation. Changing status and running scripts can be done through contact list without any need to write a command.
Others are:

These are the ones which require an open conversation window directly. /assist   /close   /call   /webcam   /emoticon   /find    /font   /invite   /logging   /me   /noformat   /noicon  /nudge   /ping   /wink
So these commands can't be the reason to have a command box on Contact List.

These others
/all: requires some open conversation windows already

/displaypic,/emails,/lock,/block,/unblock,/mobile,/msg,/notif,/profile,/persostat,/prefs,/ctcinfo,/received,/sendmail,/psm: is easier through Contact List.

So these are left. Is it worth to have a box for only these 5 commands?
/name -  /run - /script - /sendfile -  /viewlog   

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Originally posted by ahmetgns

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
The issue is not that commands exist, why they exist or what their use it.

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I know. I think you again replied without understanding my point.

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I think you didn't understand what I replied to. You said that commands are made for the ease of the user when he is in a conversation. That is completely besides the point the topposter was making.

As for the commands, the textbox wouldn't be usefull_only_ for the commands which don't require a conversation with an online person. It can also be usefull when there are conversations open already. It is obviously not limited to be used only when you don't have a conversation open. You are also forgetting that scripts can have commands too. And people might find typing in a command easier than using menus (especailly with some commands).

Your list of commands you gave to make your point is also not complete...

Before you say I don't understand the issue, thing again yourself and consider _all_ the points.

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Originally posted by MicroWay
vikkie, but the problem on doing this is that the box you showed is from WLM and not for Plus!.
Another thing: If you want to write "/brb" on the contact list, I think is easyer to select the status (clicking) than writing...

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So is the chat box. /brb was just an example, it could have been /all or anything else.

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Originally posted by vikke

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Originally posted by MicroWay
vikkie, but the problem on doing this is that the box you showed is from WLM and not for Plus!.
Another thing: If you want to write "/brb" on the contact list, I think is easyer to select the status (clicking) than writing...

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So is the chat box. /brb was just an example, it could have been /all or anything else.

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As I've said...

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Originally posted by MicroWay
And sorry, because I "forgot" other comands (I just followed the example given)...

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Anyway: Is this idea going to be made???