What happened to the Messenger Plus! forums on msghelp.net?
Shoutbox » MsgHelp Archive » Messenger Plus! for Live Messenger » Scripting » Bypass Censorship [SCRIPT]

Pages: (2): « First « 1 [ 2 ] Last »
Bypass Censorship [SCRIPT]
Author: Message:
markee
Veteran Member
*****

Avatar

Posts: 1621
Reputation: 50
35 / Male / Flag
Joined: Jan 2006
RE: Bypass Censorship [SCRIPT]
quote:
Originally posted by ShawnZ
quote:
Originally posted by markee
Well it will still stop any current ones rather than just making an EXTREMELY easy method of opening it all back up again.  It means that the virus makers have to get another version out and then when it happens we can notify the likes of the people from tinyURL or whatever and get them to remove the link as well as report the person to their ISP as they will have the IP address that was used.

do you know how long it takes to compile and distribute a new version of a virus? considering every virus these days is typically a botnet client, all the author would have to do is type ".download newpath" or related. you're really not making any point at all.

lets ban markee, because there's a one in a million chance that his msghelp.net account will be compromised some time in the future and have a virii writer post a link to a virus on the forums. in another one in a million chance one or two people might actually run it and be infected.

preemptive censorship owns
Firat of all that makes no sense because anyone can join the forums, it is not like it is invite only.  Secondly, it is FAR more likely that a virus will get linked to you than one in a million I do believe.  I know for a fact that I have had my friends get infected by at least 4 different attacks through messenger this year alone (and we are only just in August remember).  I'm not saying that all .info domains have viruses but the reasoning behind censoring them in the beginning was clear and well thought IMHO, however I do believe there should be some kind of alert to the message not being sent rather than just making a method to bypass the security feature.  By making and distributing scripts (even just the code) we are opening up a lot of potential problems, maybe we have shown that the security system that the Messenger team has put into place has loop-holes, but we should report it rather than exploit it.

I do realise that links from friends aren't normally harmful, but if we have sufficient warning about it and work around them in safe ways then it should all be fine and make the little bit of extra effort worth it.

I do realise it is more convenient not to have these security measures, but isn't it more convenient to just use through stuff into the normal, general waste rather than recycling, or take a car rather than walking to the corner store for the milk and paper?  These are just some of the things that we are realising we should do in the way of sacrifices so that everyone can enjoy their time, now and in the future.
[Image: markee.png]
08-05-2007 01:46 PM
Profile PM Find Quote Report
ShawnZ
Veteran Member
*****

Avatar

Posts: 3146
Reputation: 43
32 / Male / Flag
Joined: Jan 2003
RE: Bypass Censorship [SCRIPT]
"I'm not saying that all .info domains have viruses"

"the reasoning behind censoring them in the beginning was clear and well thought IMHO"

cheers to contradiction

[Image: go_you.gif]

edit: and i'm not even getting IN to how fucking awful that third paragraph is. THEY'RE PAID DEVELOPERS. your metaphor was absolutely useless.

This post was edited on 08-05-2007 at 01:52 PM by ShawnZ.
Spoiler:
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
08-05-2007 01:50 PM
Profile PM Web Find Quote Report
Deco
Full Member
***


Posts: 188
Reputation: 4
41 / Male / Flag
Joined: Aug 2006
RE: Bypass Censorship [SCRIPT]
Hey guys

If you need to argue this bad I think you guys should do it on private messages.

My take is that if someone asks for a script to avoid a feature...this is the right place to ask for it. Or to show his/her work in a script.

Other than that our moral judgements even though could be very interesting are most certainly out of place.

Just my two cents.
[Image: signature-user=31&back=4&clr=106,141,166&size=100.png]
08-05-2007 04:45 PM
Profile E-Mail PM Web Find Quote Report
ShawnZ
Veteran Member
*****

Avatar

Posts: 3146
Reputation: 43
32 / Male / Flag
Joined: Jan 2003
RE: Bypass Censorship [SCRIPT]
quote:
Originally posted by Deco
Hey guys

If you need to argue this bad I think you guys should do it on private messages.

My take is that if someone asks for a script to avoid a feature...this is the right place to ask for it. Or to show his/her work in a script.

Other than that our moral judgements even though could be very interesting are most certainly out of place.

Just my two cents.

pot, kettle.
Spoiler:
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
08-05-2007 04:47 PM
Profile PM Web Find Quote Report
Spunky
Former Super Mod
*****

Avatar

Posts: 3658
Reputation: 61
35 / Male / Flag
Joined: Aug 2006
RE: Bypass Censorship [SCRIPT]
I think if people are worried about it bypassing "security measures", the script should be changed so that it alerts users that the messages hasn't been sent rather than sending the original message.
<Eljay> "Problems encountered: shit blew up" :zippy:
08-06-2007 11:49 AM
Profile PM Find Quote Report
Steel Froggy
Junior Member
**

Avatar
Mc. Haxinlaggins

Posts: 58
Reputation: 1
31 / Male / –
Joined: May 2007
RE: Bypass Censorship [SCRIPT]
Ok,

So do both sides need to have the script installed?
[Image: Steel%20Froggy.png]
08-07-2007 04:23 AM
Profile E-Mail PM Web Find Quote Report
ShawnZ
Veteran Member
*****

Avatar

Posts: 3146
Reputation: 43
32 / Male / Flag
Joined: Jan 2003
RE: Bypass Censorship [SCRIPT]
quote:
Originally posted by Steel Froggy
Ok,

So do both sides need to have the script installed?

no, read the code :p
Spoiler:
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
the game.
08-07-2007 06:37 AM
Profile PM Web Find Quote Report
Steel Froggy
Junior Member
**

Avatar
Mc. Haxinlaggins

Posts: 58
Reputation: 1
31 / Male / –
Joined: May 2007
RE: Bypass Censorship [SCRIPT]
EDIT:

NVM. I'm a moron. :P

This post was edited on 08-07-2007 at 06:41 AM by Steel Froggy.
[Image: Steel%20Froggy.png]
08-07-2007 06:39 AM
Profile E-Mail PM Web Find Quote Report
Pages: (2): « First « 1 [ 2 ] Last »
« Next Oldest Return to Top Next Newest »


Threaded Mode | Linear Mode
View a Printable Version
Send this Thread to a Friend
Subscribe | Add to Favorites
Rate This Thread:

Forum Jump:

Forum Rules:
You cannot post new threads
You cannot post replies
You cannot post attachments
You can edit your posts
HTML is Off
myCode is On
Smilies are On
[img] Code is On