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i look for a script that can tell me if a contact is really offline or just "apeering offline"

thanks

What would be the point of appearing offline if such a script was invented?

There is no such script and there probably never will.

It can't be done. Except for me

But seriously, you'll never find something like that on these forums as it's a breach of privacy

No, there is no way to determine if a contact is appearing offline, or if they are really offline.

search the forum.

let me repeat:

There is no way to know if a contact is appearing offline

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Originally posted by SpunkyLoveMuff
It can't be done. Except for me

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Did you report your find to MS? or are you still "testing"?

Just personal use atm. It doesn't always show people that are offline (A session needs to be initiated first), but so far, it has yet to be wrong about someone

I too have the possibility to see the real status of some of my friends, but as SLM and Adam stated, I won't ever make such stuff public, as it is against the purpose why this function "Appear Offline" was invented at all.

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Originally posted by SpunkyLoveMuff
Just personal use atm. It doesn't always show people that are offline (A session needs to be initiated first), but so far, it has yet to be wrong about someone

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Will you be sending it to microsoft? I think you should publish it and a belive you would get money out of it.

Can you tell us the basic jist of how it works ?

it works exactly the same as those open convo notifiers; the principle is just the same. This also means that such things are never ever accurate; eg: if it reports that someone is offline, it might be that the contact is still appearing offline for real (or whatever)... On top of that take in consideration that there can be lags and sometimes drops so that your Messenger doesn't always show the real status of the contact (rare, but it happens)...

So, please guys, we all know what 'problems' those open convo notifiers gave and still are giving, so don't get people's hope up. It will NOT work... Most of the people using such things can not or will not understand the difference (again see open convo notifiers).

Although I don’t necessary disagree that being able to see when someone is appearing offline is a breach of privacy, in my opinion I also think this is slightly hypocritical and that privacy on the net is a bit of a myth considering the fact that so many things are available to us through WLM, MPL, MDL, Stuffplug and many more that could also be considered an invasion of privacy…   

For example the first time I discovered that someone could steal my display picture I nearly fell off my fricken chair and walked around for days thinking how rude, I mean I never gave them permission to steal my picture and then use it. Now I have come to the conclusion that that’s just part of life online. 

We all have access to programs that enable us to log chats, log events, find out peoples IP addresses, steal pictures etc. I’m sure there are some people with more computer knowledge than myself that could probably find out a lot more than just if I’m appearing offline.       

I know quite a few people who use WLM without any addons or scripts who have no clue that someone can log their conversations or steal their pictures so isn’t this then an invasion of their privacy also???   

Even though I wouldn’t necessarily want people to know that I’m appearing offline when I do, I’m also resigned to the fact that someone on my contact list may have come across a way to establish this just as SpunkyLoveMuff and Mynetx have.

I want to ask you guys a question, are there no scripts for this because it is an invasion of privacy or is it because there is no way to get around messenger at the moment???

Just curious...