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O.P. RE: LOP
Thank you for the replies everyone. Sincerely, it means a lot...

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Originally posted by toddy
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sums it up well
...except for that^, which was just uncalled for.


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Originally posted by Wikipedia
Software is considered malware based on the perceived intent of the creator rather than any particular features. Malware includes computer viruses, worms, trojan horses, most rootkits, spyware, dishonest adware, crimeware and other malicious and unwanted software

With a separated license agreement, and the option to install it or not being very explicit during the instalation, I don't guess Plus!'s optional adware can be considered malware.

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Is it wrong to try to earn some honest money with your own creation?
No, but the creator of Messenger Plus! is not making honest money off of his creation. The only money he gets is off of the installation of the sponsor software, which is not his own creation.

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These same people who didn't care to READ what they were agreeing upon clicking "I Agree" everywhere they can?
Correct, these same people. Are you telling me that it is only because of the gullibility of the general population who don't know any better and who do not want this sponsor software, that the adware is still supported? What was this "honest money" you were referring to?

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If I recall correctly, in the installer you have to click either I refuse or I agree, so there's no "standart" installation. If I recalled it incorrectly, I'm sure Patchou wouldn't have pre-selected the "I Agree" option.
Also, why don't you ever try to use "Add and Remove Programs" (XP) / "Programs and Features" (Vista / 7) to remove it?

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Did you know the uninstaller is included?
I am aware that an uninstaller is included; however, I have always had the policy to never trust uninstallers from the creators of any type of malware.

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The adware that comes with this program is COMPLETELY OPTIONAL. Sorry if you didn't bother to check if it was or not.
Optional yes, but it relies on the ignorance of the general population. It doesn't have to be pre-checked, because the author knows people will click "I agree" regardless. Is this not exploiting ignorance?

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How about making a "confirmation" page including adware's license and asking if you really want to install it? Oh, forgot, done already.
Why not remove the adware all together and not resort to trickery to make "honest money?"

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Sorry if it seems to be a disrespectful text, it wasn't meant to be.
It does not seem that way, and I appreciate you taking the time to discuss this.


I will respond to the other posts after I do some testing.. Thank you for the responses everyone, though some of the snide remarks didn't have to be said...


-screen317

Edited to fix quotes.

This post was edited on 07-20-2009 at 02:54 AM by screen317.
07-20-2009 02:53 AM
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LOP - by screen317 on 07-20-2009 at 12:39 AM
RE: LOP - by blessedguy on 07-20-2009 at 01:01 AM
RE: LOP - by prashker on 07-20-2009 at 01:10 AM
RE: LOP - by ShawnZ on 07-20-2009 at 01:38 AM
RE: RE: LOP - by CookieRevised on 07-20-2009 at 02:40 AM
RE: LOP - by ShawnZ on 07-20-2009 at 02:43 AM
RE: LOP - by screen317 on 07-20-2009 at 02:53 AM
RE: RE: LOP - by robert_dll on 07-20-2009 at 03:16 AM
RE: RE: LOP - by CookieRevised on 07-20-2009 at 03:27 AM
RE: RE: RE: LOP - by screen317 on 07-20-2009 at 03:51 AM
RE: LOP - by Jesus on 07-20-2009 at 03:36 AM
RE: RE: LOP - by screen317 on 07-20-2009 at 03:56 AM
RE: LOP - by prashker on 07-20-2009 at 04:00 AM
RE: LOP - by CookieRevised on 07-20-2009 at 05:05 AM
RE: LOP - by Nagamasa on 07-20-2009 at 06:13 AM


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