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What's the server IP address for MyPlus(A)

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02-11-2011 01:18 PM
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What's the server IP address for MyPlus(A)

- Echo a list of your connected IPs into a text file.
- Connect to MyPlus!
- Repeat the previous command into a different text file.
- Diff the two.

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I am not going near MyPlus :|
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I am not going near MyPlus
:( Fine, I'll bite, let's say the servers are in China. What were you going to moan about?
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What's stopping 'Yuna' from reading our logs?
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What's stopping 'Yuna' from reading our logs?
That's one I'm actually interested in myself. I would presume it's encrypted on the server -- but with what?

For all I know it could be that it requires you to use the encryption password within Plus!, so that when you try to read logs online you have to use that to decrypt the passwords.

Otherwise, I'm not too fond of it unless it's host-proof.
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Even If it is encrpyted on the server, Yuna can still see it. And If It's encrypted here then sent, the amount of data Yuna has they can easily come up with an algorithm to decrypt most of them, and sell them to marketing companies or spammers. 
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What's stopping 'Yuna' from reading our logs?
What's stopping MS from reading your hotmails?
What's stopping FB admins from publishing your private data?
What's stopping your ISP from reading your internet traffic (incl. password sends (like POP3 logins) over an insecure connection).
What's stopping the admins here from tampering with your account?
And I can go on and on and on like a duracell bunny on steroids.

If you don't trust them, then don't use the online logging and stop moaning for the sake of moaning.

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And If It's encrypted here then sent, the amount of data Yuna has they can easily come up with an algorithm to decrypt most of them, and sell them to marketing companies or spammers.
And it's stuff like this which makes it very hard for people to take you seriously and to not call you an idiot.

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Originally posted by Chrissy
What's stopping 'Yuna' from reading our logs?
What's stopping MS from reading your hotmails?
What's stopping your ISP from reading your internet traffic (incl. password sends (like POP3 logins) over an insecure connection).
What's stopping the admins here from tampering with your account?
And I can go on and on and on like a duracell bunny on steroids.

Microsoft: laws/EULA?
ISP: laws?
Admins on these forums: nothing?

You're not making a big point, even if you base it all on goodwill of the provider. When highly personal information is stored in the hands of someone else, it makes perfect sense to set out every inch of doubt available. It's your personal information.

I don't see any reason why wanting a good reason as to what is in place for making sure his data stays private - regardless of "why anyone would be interested in reading it in the first place" ideas.

I do agree that if they have a system that works in an X manner and he doesn't like it, he should stop moaning about it. However, wanting clarity in how your own personal data is handled makes perfect sense if you look at Chrissy as a customer/client, instead of as someone who's just moaning about how horrible Plus! is.

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And If It's encrypted here then sent, the amount of data Yuna has they can easily come up with an algorithm to decrypt most of them, and sell them to marketing companies or spammers.
And it's stuff like this which make it very hard for people to not call you an idiot.
Now that I fully agree with.

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What's stopping MS from reading your hotmails?
What's stopping FB admins from publishing your private data?
What's stopping your ISP from reading your internet traffic (incl. password sends (like POP3 logins) over an insecure connection).
What's stopping the admins here from tampering with your account?
And I can go on and on and on like a duracell bunny on steroids.
We know HARDLY anything about Yuna. Compared to MS or FB that we know A LOT about we know barely anything, why would people trust Yuna compared to MS.
All that people know is that it's an add-on for WLM (A LOT OF Add-ons are spyware/dodgy) and it wants to store their chats on there on servers.

Microsoft is a well known company, that people have used for decades.
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