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Originally posted by Patchou
I have a trademark on "Messenger Plus!" which means that I can legally challenge anyone using this name, even without the exclamation point.

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I'm such a retard...... there is Messenger Plus!™ ©2001-2004 by Patchou on the bottom of the forum and website...

lol, does it cost nefin to copyright fings? wouldnt ave fort ! wud make a dif....owel

I guess you do have to buy copyrights on something..

Yes, it does cost money to try to get copyright on something.

As far as i know Patchou has copyrighted everything to do with Messenger plus.

Copyrights might cost quite a bit of  cash, im not sure.

Yes it does, it can cost quite a bit, depending on what you want to copyright, if its music or something, then you can send it through recorded delivery back to your house, and it will get to you, but thats a cheap copyright . It can cost loads for you to copyright something, and I wouldn't do it unless its completely necessary if I were you...

http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/

thats how you would go about copyrighting something afaik...

What sucks about copyrighting is I think you can only copyright summit for 50 years.

I think thats the total amount you can copyright something, but I'm not entirely sure, I don't see why there would be restrictions though... It would cost a hell of a lot of money to do so, it costs £60 to protect an alias for 2 years... ... multiply that by 25...

These are the limits :

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Duration of copyright

The 1988 Copyright, Designs and Patents Act states the duration of copyright as;

   1. For literary, dramatic, musical or artistic works

      70 years from the end of the calendar year in which the last remaining author of the work dies.

      If the author is unknown, copyright will last for 70 years from end of the calendar year in which the work was created, although if it is made available to the public during that time, (by publication, authorised performance, broadcast, exhibition, etc.), copyright will run for 70 years from the end of the year that the work was first made available.
   2. Sound Recordings and broadcasts

      50 years from the end of the calendar year in which the work was created, or,

      if the work is released within that time: 50 years from the end of the calendar year in which the work was first released.
   3. Films

      70 years from the end of the calendar year in which the last principal director, author or composer dies.

      If the work is of unknown authorship: 70 years from end of the calendar year of creation, or if made available to the public in that time, 70 years from the end of the year the film was first made available.
   4. Typographical arrangement of published editions

      25 years from the end of the calendar year in which the work was first published.
   5. Broadcasts and cable programmes

      50 years from the end of the calendar year in which the broadcast was made.

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I acutally looked for it.

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Originally posted by Fraisie
Yes, it does cost money to try to get copyright on something.

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Well, actually, it costs money to register stuff. Such as registered trademarks, or patents. Copyrights are, technically, automatic and you can't "get" them anywhere, they are the rights you have over things you create.

Registered trademarks and other legal methods help you prove who created something first, though. That costs money, in most cases.

And, while the ! matters, it can be argued that a product named "Messenger Plus" is a direct copy of "Messenger Plus!" as far as I know.

This Logitech camera is no problem because it's just part of the model name:
Logitech Quickcam Messenger Plus

Such as Genius' optical mouse plus series; while MS copyrights the "Plus!" trademark, they can't be sued for using the Plus word. (same goes for msgplus)