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so theres no way to fix it

Yes, we think... However wait if Patchou post..

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Originally posted by mzlalii
so theres no way to fix it

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long shot, but you could try doing a clean download of plus! (clean you cache, and then download plus! again). file may have got corrupt whilst downloading.

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Originally posted by Matty
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282187

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It's another thing... it's the support for not-Unicode chars... Messenger Plus! haven't symbols in the buttons!!

it didnt work ,it says " cannot set up microsoft windows powertoys" cause im with vista not xp

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Originally posted by mzlalii
it didnt work ,it says " cannot set up microsoft windows powertoys" cause im with vista not xp

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First: like you said, you have Vista and not Win XP or Win 2000

Second: read my last post. Also if you add the string on the registry key, you don't resolve anything I think because MS Dlg Shell replace unrecognized font names with system fonts. The solutions is for chars that not are in the Unicode table.

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Microsoft says:
When the MS Shell Dlg mapping changes due to changing the system locale, this may have an unexpected effect on how programs display text, specifically when a program that uses MS Shell Dlg expects glyphs to be available from MS Shell Dlg that are not in the font to which it is currently mapped. This typically results in the display of the "default glyph." The default glyph varies from font to font, but commonly looks similar to a pipe symbol (|) or a small square, or rectangular box. You can manually change the font mapping if a single font will suit the needs of both the computer dialogs and the localized programs that are having display problems.

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Third: that help page says that if chars aren't supported, you can see the pipe "|" or a square char... and however Messenger Plus is not in this category: "specifically when a program that uses MS Shell Dlg expects glyphs to be available from MS Shell Dlg that are not in the font to which it is currently mapped"!!!

AngelDevil, that KB explains that MS Shell Dlg is a font mapping and when it is set wrong you can have all kinds of unexpected effects.

MS Shell Dlg is not for replacing unreconized font names with system fonts. It is used to provide the same font face for all programs on all Windows versions; so you don't need to make a seperate program for XP which uses Tahoma, Win95 which uses Arial and Vista which uses whatever-else as the system's default dialog font. You can simply make 1 program which uses the special font MS Shell Dialog and this will automatically be mapped by the OS to its standard default system font so your programs looks like any other program in that OS.

Thus this isn't about non-supported characters. In fact, what they say in that article is that you should not use MS Shell Dlg if you're program needs very special characters. This because you can not be sure that the MS Shell Dlg font is mapped to a font which has those special characters (which in that case you see the pipe symbol, question mark, square or maybe even another character), and you should use a build-in font...

Anyways, a very common effect when the MS Shell Dlg points to a wrong font is exactly as shown in the screenshots of the top poster and the poster in that other thread. Most likely they have a wrong font mapping somewhere (due to installing bad Windows Skins for example). Though those screenshots might also indicate a wrong DPI setting, or a combination of both, etc...

indeed. Check MS Shell Dlg and MS Shell Dlg 2, that'S the fonts Plus! uses (and a lot of other apps too).

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Originally posted by Patchou
indeed. Check MS Shell Dlg and MS Shell Dlg 2, that'S the fonts Plus! uses (and a lot of other apps too).

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I disagreed because in Windows Vista, buttons are controlled only by the system, you can't select a specified character for 3D object in your pc, so I think that developers too can't do it, at least without using button skins, but in Messenger Plus! there are the default buttons of Windows.

However, the standard font substitutes for MS Shell Dlg and Dlg 2 are MS Sans Serif and Tahoma, it's impossible that in Windows Vista they don't exist because they are installed with the OS, if MzLalii haven't removed they.