Shoutbox

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Originally posted by AngelDevil
However, the standard font substitutes for MS Shell Dlg and Dlg 2 are MS Sans Serif and Tahoma, it's impossible that in Windows Vista there aren't they because they are installed with the OS, if MzLalii haven't removed they.

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What the standard substitutions are depends on the OS.

But it isn't because Tahoma and MS Sans Serif are installed that MS Shell Dlg and MS Shell Dlg 2 are mapped correctly to those fonts. These are two different things.

It is quite possible that the font mapping has changed for some reason and that it points to another font than the "default" ones. Though this should also mean that in other programs he should see the same "strange non-default" font.

I wonder if it is really only related to fonts. Like I said before on the other thread which reported the same problem, Messenger Plus! Live windows are enlarged. If OS used a different font instead the standard fonts, normally windows mustn't be enlarged, must it? I assume even if Messenger plus! uses a different font, windows must stay in normal sizes but lines must be broken automatically from somewhere else. But from the screenshots we can see that there is no change where the lines are broken.

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Originally posted by ahmetgns
I wonder if it is really only related to fonts.

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No, as already said by others (like AngelDevil) and me:

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
(yadda yadda)
Though those screenshots might also indicate a wrong DPI setting, or a combination of both, etc...

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Originally posted by CookieRevised

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
(yadda yadda)
Though those screenshots might also indicate a wrong DPI setting, or a combination of both, etc...

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What did you mean with "wrong DPI setting"? I really didn't understand how dpi setting can be wrong.

actually i dont think i have MS Shell Dlg and MS Shell Dlg 2 so ill try to install it and see if it works and my DPI settings r set 2 normal

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Originally posted by mzlalii
actually i dont think i have MS Shell Dlg and MS Shell Dlg 2 so ill try to install it and see if it works and my DPI settings r set 2 normal

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you can't install MS Shell Dlg and MS Shell Dlg 2. They aren't real physical fonts. They are font mappings.

MS Shell Dlg and MS Shell Dlg 2 are special names which a programmer can use instead of a real font name. When MS Shell Dlg or MS Shell Dlg 2 are used instead of a real font name, the actual font being used in the end will be determined by the Windows OS and it will be the default system font for that particular Windows OS.

This is why programs all look the same. Because otherwise you would need to ask all other programmers "hey, what font did you use?", "oh I used Arial", "what? no, I used Comic Sans", "damn, my user doesn't have that font, what should I do?", etc... And you will end up with a chaos of all kinds of different fonts being used in programs.

So what should i do . Cause i have no idea

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Originally posted by ahmetgns
What did you mean with "wrong DPI setting"? I really didn't understand how dpi setting can be wrong.

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I think that CookieRevised wanted to say a DPI setting incompatible with MsgPlus! Live... wrong in that sense


For MzLalii.. CookieRevised have reason. You can't install MS Shell Dlg - Dlg 2, because they are font mappings.. You can only view in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Window NT/Current Settings/FontSubstitutes which are the respective substitutes for them.

But I tried to remove these keys and nothing happen in Messenger Plus!, because like I said before, buttons in MsgPlus! are the default Windows Vista text buttons.

so how am i suppose to fix it. im going pazza here

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Originally posted by mzlalii
so how am i suppose to fix it. im going pazza here

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I think that the best solutions is to buy a new computer! However if you want I can use your computer with a remote desktop... I securely resolve your problem.